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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 11:32 AM
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it appears that somebody hunted with their broad heads in the rain last year never took care of them. He also shoots a slow bow and had crossbow collars on his Broadhead So the problem is the hunter is an idiot; did multiple stupid things; but you came here to crap on mech heads and blame them.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 11:43 AM
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I don’t shoot expandable broadhead, but I do know that mechanical shucks fails Well I really don't give a tinkers damn what broadhead you use. But if you are going to restrict yourself from anything mechanical because it might fail then here's some stuff to add to your list. Your truck, your 4 wheeler, your bow. your gun, and your climbing stand. You trust all those things. Some of them with your life but you draw the line at a mech head. LOL! You need to be sporting some serious KE to put an expandable head through an elk. If the guy was using a slow bow then he should have known better and the whole cluster frack affair is on him. Furthermore if he hadn't checked his broadheads since hunting with them in the rain LAST YEAR then that just further proved what a total goob the guy is.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 12:02 PM
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I'm pretty well against using mechanical heads. But that is only because of penetration issues. I've killed a bunch of deer with rages, swackers, spitfires, grim reapers, etc. Never had an issue with them performing, as long as I hit soft stuff. The problem was, I am like a honing beacon for shoulders. So a good cut on contact fixed blade, and medium weight arrow setup performs better for me. I’m in the same boat and I don’t want a wider cut than what I already get with my fixed it. These balls are too tough to get a lot of penetration on sometimes. My son shot his bull two days ago at 42yds with a 125gr thunderhead and only the fletching prevented a passthrough. 2nd arrow base if neck into shoulder at 66
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 12:10 PM
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I don’t shoot expandable broadhead, but I do know that mechanical shucks fails Well I really don't give a tinkers damn what broadhead you use. But if you are going to restrict yourself from anything mechanical because it might fail then here's some stuff to add to your list. Your truck, your 4 wheeler, your bow. your gun, and your climbing stand. You trust all those things. Some of them with your life but you draw the line at a mech head. LOL! You need to be sporting some serious KE to put an expandable head through an elk. If the guy was using a slow bow then he should have known better and the whole cluster frack affair is on him. Furthermore if he hadn't checked his broadheads since hunting with them in the rain LAST YEAR then that just further proved what a total goob the guy is. Like I said I didn’t shoot it was just passing along that it failed and you guys start wanking. I could care less if you care what BH i use. Lol, I put in too much work on my elk hunts to trust a mech head. BTW, i have a spare bow. That large cutting area is not my preference. Comparing that to my truck is just stupid it has nothing to do with the subject 😂
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 07:09 PM
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Whatever man… Is there a special reason you’re just being a dick? All you had to do is read the posts and I specifically said it could’ve been human error but nope you want To keep acting stupid instead of recognizing that. I don’t care if you’re moderator not its still no reason to be a prick
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 07:22 PM
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I always said I wouldn't use them on elk and am now convinced. A guy I know shot a bull a few days ago about 30min before dark. Trailed what little blood he could find and backed out. Next day went to his parents house to approach from where the bull was headed and when he got to their house he noticed a nice bull pushing cows around by the apple trees. It was the same bull he shot lol. Arrow poking out and all. Anyway, once light he poked him and the bull bugled so he poked him again. The mech head to the lung had failed to open. Your original post. You didn’t mention jack until you were called out on it. It’s just like Todd said, you came here to crap on mech heads and blame them. Instead of acting like an adult and owning up to it, you start backpedaling and calling people names. Just like a teenage drama queen. “LOL”
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 07:29 PM
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I always said I wouldn't use them on elk and am now convinced. A guy I know shot a bull a few days ago about 30min before dark. Trailed what little blood he could find and backed out. Next day went to his parents house to approach from where the bull was headed and when he got to their house he noticed a nice bull pushing cows around by the apple trees. It was the same bull he shot lol. Arrow poking out and all. Anyway, once light he poked him and the bull bugled so he poked him again. The mech head to the lung had failed to open. Your original post. You didn’t mention jack until you were called out on it. It’s just like Todd said, you came here to crap on mech heads and blame them. Instead of acting like an adult and owning up to it, you start backpedaling and calling people names. Just like a teenage drama queen. “LOL” Lol, when i made the OP i hadnt seen the broadhead. Im hunting ine unit and he was un another. Really never called anyone anything until basically being called a liar. Like I said I posted it could’ve been operator error you failed to read that and continue to act like a dick. If you go back and read everything there’s so many stupid comments that had nothing to do with a broadhead failing. I never said anything definite until I had looked at it, only that it had failed. The drama comes from your childish Memes Just to be clear, Todd was wrong. I didn’t come out here to crap on mechanical heads i strictly stated that it had failed. I can’t help everyone starts wanking over a comment that’s true
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/20/21 07:35 PM
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No, I read it. You didn’t say anything until you were called out on it. Keep digging the hole deeper…..
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 09:15 AM
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I think I would have figured out the whole story before I blamed a piece of equipment then you wouldn’t have to circle back. I did not blame a piece of equipment I simply stated that the mechanical broadhead failed. Then all the cool guys decided to start acting stupid about it LOL
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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No, I read it. You didn’t say anything until you were called out on it. Keep digging the hole deeper….. Like I said you’ve been on here being a weenie. I simply stated that a mechanical broadhead failed. If I’m hunting one area and he’s hunting another area and we are not together holding hands I’m pretty sure I’m not going to see the Broadhead until we’re back in the same town. Once were in the same town I saw broadhead and Stated what Appeared to be the issue.. It’s not my fault you were on calling bulldoodoo on everything. I’m elk hunting for myself and was out caliing for my son until he tagged out. I wasn’t gonna waste my hunting time Trying to solve a mystery when we’re not even in the same area. You can keep twisting calling bulldoodoo or whatever you wanna do but the simple fact is the Broadhead failed
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 10:18 AM
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So….if it failed to open due to rain or crossbow collars are you still convinced that you shouldn’t use them?
Matthew 6:33 “Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you” ESV
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 10:37 AM
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So….if it failed to open due to rain or crossbow collars are you still convinced that you shouldn’t use them? Exactly. I guess if these guys didn't check the oil in their truck for a year then pumped the tank full of diesel on a gas engine truck, he would be on here claiming all pickup trucks suck when it stopped running. LOL!
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 12:32 PM
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I always said I wouldn't use them on elk and am now convinced. So you were “convinced” and had time to jump on here and post about it before having all the facts. Ok…… That’s the problem I have with this thread. You jump on here posting about a mechanical failing to open. The same bullchit excuse I’ve heard a thousand times to cover up poor shot placement or not properly maintaining your equipment. I’ve heard the same bullchit excuse about losing animals and no blood trails because of fixed heads also because of poor shot placement. You didn’t backpedal until you were called out on it then started calling people names. And for the record, if I ever get the chance to bow hunt elk, I will most likely go the fixed head route. With my setup, a mechanical would be too risky due penetration, not because I’m afraid it won’t open.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 03:17 PM
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I always said I wouldn't use them on elk and am now convinced. So you were “convinced” and had time to jump on here and post about it before having all the facts. Ok…… That’s the problem I have with this thread. You jump on here posting about a mechanical failing to open. The same bullchit excuse I’ve heard a thousand times to cover up poor shot placement or not properly maintaining your equipment. I’ve heard the same bullchit excuse about losing animals and no blood trails because of fixed heads also because of poor shot placement. You didn’t backpedal until you were called out on it then started calling people names. And for the record, if I ever get the chance to bow hunt elk, I will most likely go the fixed head route. With my setup, a mechanical would be too risky due penetration, not because I’m afraid it won’t open. I was convinced because i know the individual that shot the bull lol. I never back pedaled, just posted facts as they came. A few of ya jumped the gun like i was making shucks up, obvious by your comments. Just called one guy a moron for his reference to a 12 year ild and one a dick after he constantly tried to make the post more than it was. The OP was fact and accurate, it failed to open. Im done and you can try to twist it how ya please but, i never blamed the head, just passed a fact. My release mechanically failed today when i was using it as a “figit” hiking my death march uphill btw. Luckily i carry a twin in my pack
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Re: Trusting mech heads
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09/21/21 03:26 PM
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So….if it failed to open due to rain or crossbow collars are you still convinced that you shouldn’t use them? Exactly. I guess if these guys didn't check the oil in their truck for a year then pumped the tank full of diesel on a gas engine truck, he would be on here claiming all pickup trucks suck when it stopped running. LOL! Nope, i dont care what ithers use but im convinced i wont use them on elk. Especially the Roosevelts. Our mature cows weigh as much as some Rocky bulls. I want penetration and i rely on whats been proven to me. As far as Todds comment, its just another dumb statement
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