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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: CNC] #3537156
11/23/21 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by CNC
Believe it doesnt have an impact if you want to.


I know what works for us. šŸ˜‚

Pressure CNC. Not gun shots. And like Frankie said itā€™s best to do it early and as soon as the first one steps out. Heck Iā€™ve shot does and big mature bucks within minutes of each other. Just sit tight and keep hunting, especially if you shoot a hot doe. Oh boy. Get ready.


Let me ask this question then......What is "hunting pressure"?.......Is it simply human presence?


My goodness. Here goes 14 pages šŸ¤¦šŸæšŸ¤¦šŸæšŸ¤¦šŸæ


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537266
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Sunday morning I got into a ladder stand in plain sight of 6 does all between 50-100 yards and one of them stood there and stared at me for about 10 minutes. Then she walked towards me a little way and acted like she was going to stomp and carry on like an A-Hole. But she didn't. The stand overlooks a plot in the woods and the approach is hidden by brush. No skirt on the stand so being still is the name of the game.

Those punk does that run up on you stomping blowing and carrying on... those are the ones I shoot. I take those out this time of year. Been doing that for several years now.

Hunting Pressure is all inclusive and doesn't begin or end with a muzzle flash.



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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537288
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I donā€™t shoot them on fields because then you have to retrieve them from the field. Itā€™s far to easy to set aside a few mornings to sit where deer cross roads and shoot them when they are traveling and not feeding in a patch with 10 or more other deer.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537290
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All these donā€™t shoot em on field guys almost 100% sure they go screwing with cameras and feeders regularly. Thatā€™s worse than shooting does on fields


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537333
11/23/21 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
how many of yall shoot doe off food plots and does it have negative impacts on bucks using the fields???


Kill them. If a buck wants to be in the field, he'll be there. Shooting a doe in a field won't ruin everything.

Farting around the property on an ATV, walking, checking cameras or feeders, or "just seeing what's going on" disturbs them more.


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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537337
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I dont shoot does on my fields and I dang sure dont run cameras on them unless it is a cell cam that I can put out and not touch. Same reason I dont have a corn feeder in any of my fields. I shoot does in the woods or more preferably on a road where I can just drive the truck right up to them to load them up. I dont really think it hurts to shoot does on fields occasionally but with other locations options to kill them, if I want to kill a doe, why not leave the field completely undisturbed. Key to killing good deer on fields and fields filling up with deer every afternoon is to only hunt them on the proper winds, and good deer killing weather conditions, and make sure that you can approach and leave without them knowing you have come and gone. In other words, set your stands up well off the field, if at all possible.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537340
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We do all of the things that everyone says we are not supposed to do and seems to work out ok for us. I think every property is different.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537346
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A have a friend that spends countless numbers of hours sitting out in the woods on their property in a hunting blind simply taking pictures of deerā€¦ā€¦Why does this not affect the deer if going into the woods and farting around puts pressure on them?.......I have had does in the past that would watch me get out of the stand and walk back to the house without spookingā€¦ā€¦What separates these and other human interactions that donā€™t spook deer from ā€œhunting pressureā€?


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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537362
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Could the difference be the fact that someone is shooting at them in one situation and not the other??.......You know thereā€™s really not a lot of other options to choose fromā€¦ā€¦Shooting at deer is the root cause of ā€œhunting pressureā€ā€¦ā€¦.and shooting at them in the places where deer are the most concentrated is the most likely way to educate othersā€¦ā€¦.This debate seems asinine really.

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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537368
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A good bit on here know more than meā€¦ā€¦in my opinion it comes down to each unique tract and the herds characteristics as far as pressure goesā€¦.I too have seen someone drop a doe and six others watch her die and eat around her in a food plot the size of a swimming poolā€¦ā€¦..then I have seen a field be full and drop my grunt call and the field empty out and they blew for the next hourā€¦ā€¦ā€¦I have a standing offer that nobody has taken me up onā€¦ā€¦..whenever they first deer walks into the fieldā€¦ā€¦shoot a tree or a gong target across the fieldā€¦ā€¦.then keep up with how many mature bucks you see that afternoonā€¦

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: CNC] #3537395
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Originally Posted by CNC
A have a friend that spends countless numbers of hours sitting out in the woods on their property in a hunting blind simply taking pictures of deerā€¦ā€¦Why does this not affect the deer if going into the woods and farting around puts pressure on them?.......I have had does in the past that would watch me get out of the stand and walk back to the house without spookingā€¦ā€¦What separates these and other human interactions that donā€™t spook deer from ā€œhunting pressureā€?

My Dad says deer can tell the difference. As long as you aren't sneaking around, it doesn't bother them as much. But a camo clad predator slipping through the woods equals high alert.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: 257wbymag] #3537477
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
All these donā€™t shoot em on field guys almost 100% sure they go screwing with cameras and feeders regularly. Thatā€™s worse than shooting does on fields

We donā€™t put cameras on fields and we also donā€™t ride and check cameras. The only time we check cameras is if you are hunting the area the cam is in.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: 257wbymag] #3537483
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
All these donā€™t shoot em on field guys almost 100% sure they go screwing with cameras and feeders regularly. Thatā€™s worse than shooting does on fields

This

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537484
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This is something we are toying with in my club at the board level. Trying to balance that with what the biologist says, which is kill 15 doe's this year. Not sure that's possible, and killing that many in the woods when alot of our members only sit in shooting houses is tough.

What I tend to see here is if you haven't seen a deer by 7:30 am, you are probably done for the morning, and usually the doe's either come out around 3:30 in the afternoon and right at dark. More right at dark, if at all.

We stopped the baiting on green fields this year and suggested if you want to put a camera on one to use a cell camera with lithium batteries. Me and my son's killed 5 deer last year. 4 off green fields and one in the woods.

Members son shot one youth weekend. On Greenfield. Other stayed and fed for 30 minutes. My son shot one this am, it popped out and he tattooed it with a 30-30. We let it sit about half and hour and then went and got it and left.

We are next property over from sheriff's range so deer hear gun fire all the time here.

I think what messes the fields up is people hunting them with the wrong wind, and walking thru and around them looking for sign. Since I'm the planter, I check them. Just fertilized a couple Sunday and broadcast some more seed on two since they are getting pounded.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537489
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I personally have seen more deer from 830-10am and I guess every situation is different from hers to hers but have dropped a doe and watched deer stay and eat on the field. Wife had that happen Saturday evening actually.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537524
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Fact of the matter is no answer is 100% right all the time. If you want to kill does or need to kill does, do it the best way you know how. Iā€™d rather shoot them on a field cause theyā€™re easy to load up and as long as you donā€™t do it every weekend it donā€™t seem to matter.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537531
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In my experience, taking multiple does off your greenfield affects traffic later on.

Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537548
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We try to do all our doe killing before January, if possible, so MLK weekend on, although there are plenty of hunters, very few shots. Of course, the abundance of pigs in Dallas County lately means there is a fair amount of shooting, no matter what weekend.


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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537561
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We do early but stop mid season. Kids mostly


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Re: killing does on food plots [Re: bhammedic84] #3537576
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Shot a mature doe last year on my big plot . When she went down the rest milled around and wouldn't leave the field like they were confused . I read later if you shoot the lead doe the rest of the group doesn't have a leader . It was 3-4 weeks before I saw another doe in the plot . I did kill an 8 later crossing the plot .

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