Only until Dec 15.

Spot on.. Not everyone has the privilege of hunting low pressured / well managed areas, big crop fields etc.. I've saw great properties become very tough to hunt due to bad hunting habits. Doe killing on plots may have no negative effects on your property but you better believe it can impact property somewhere else.

In my old club, we had 25 plots. 5 were buck only, the other 20, we allowed 2 does to be killed ,then that plot became buck only. This seemed to work well.

I think we are coming full circle on this thread about shooting does. It's not necessarily about what you are doing and what you can control. In many instances it has everything to do with what you can't control and who you can't control.

You can never shoot a doe off your food plot and 200 yards away across the property line on your neighbor.... they might kill everything they see with hair on it. And your deer are wild as hell as a result and afraid to stick their nose out in fear it's going to get blown off.

That's real too. I've been there.

My does don't pay me any attention and I shoot pigs all the time in the plots. Never a 1 size fits all answer to this question. I think the biggest factor is that I am out on my land all year. On the flip side n many cases a property goes from zero humans all summer.... to 10 people on it 24/7 like flipping a switch in November. Deer aren't use to humans being around and are skittish as hell.

If the deer are conditioned to having human presence and are not blasted they calm down a LOT. That's certain. Even to the level of filling feeders and checking Cameras. How many does you can blast from there is subjective. All those factors seem to come together with the deer's willingness to stand around in the open being a target.

The other thing that is certain is that if you neighbors are a bunch of doe blasters you aren't going to be able to overcome that. If you own the land and want to grow big deer on your property... plan for an uphill battle and disappointment. Billy Bob who pays $500 to hunt next door is going to make sure that never happens. And that's what sucks about hunting in Alabama for many who would like to improve their hunting.

Bow hunting plots is the best way I can think of to spook deer if thats your concern. You have to get closer meaning much better chance of having a wind swirl that clears the field and spook more entering and exiting than you do gun hunting. My main goal when it comes to hunting pressure is not to ruin an area by hunting with a bad or matginal wind. Shooting a deer or two will not impact a property or field neatly as much as someone hunting with the wrong wind 1 or more times. With a great wind deer never know you are there they just know their buddy died but have no clue why nor do they care

Good points Ben. Bow hunting is probably the worst idea when it comes to concerns over pressure. Approach and stand positions are also key. I pay close attention to screening cover and ALWAYS the wind. Pressure goes way beyond the muzzle flash.

I never saw a fat Indian

Here you go 257:

That’s a red dot Indian. I’m talking about a woo woo woo Indian

Great Points Goat Killer - approach and stand placement are big. A lot of times u are limited how u can set your stand - but there have been times I could set my stand where I could leave and they could never detect me (further back) leaving and if I hunted the wind correctly - it was kind of like that stand never got hunted - those places were very successful for me

The way my land lays now - harder to do but I still skip out undetected some

If you are going to do it do it very early in the season and in one day.
And do it after the first week as you never know what is going to show up that first week of gun season if there has not been any previous hunting. I watched a ton of deer yesterday afternoon on a food plot including a 125+ inch 4 year old, a 3 yo and 2 yo and 4 spikes.

I think it is better to just shoot your does as they cross internal roads and logging roads. Again the week after the opening week.

You've obviously never been to Poarch.

That dot head looks like someone shoved an air compressor hose up this azz.

If y'all think bow hunting causes more pressure on deer than gun hunting then you need to put the crack pipe down and back away slowly.......

It absolutely does when both are done properly as in hunt the wind properly I dont even see how it could be comparable.

The earliest memory I have and can recall pretty vividly was when I was still young enough that my uncle could just reach down and pick me up…..probably 4 years old or so……I remember it is because he reached down, picked me up, and then sat me on his horse…….which for whatever reason didn’t like it and started bucking while I held onto the saddle horn screaming…..The only reason I believe I remember that happening so vividly is because it was likely somewhat a traumatic experience for me at that age…..I don’t mean like life scarring traumatic…..I’m just talking about why it imprinted the memory on my brain……Now I’ll give you that deer don’t know they’ve been shot at on every occasion…… but in the instances where they do,,,….I firmly believe that the big sudden BOOOOM!!! is far more likely to leave that lasting impression and change behavior with one experience than the silent fump of a bow string. Again, y’all are hung up on it being all about human presence when its not……The one thing that makes human presence a threat to them is when they know that the humans are shooting at them. This is the way deer behave…. …..They learn to perceive you as a threat by you shooting at them……A deer is not naturally scared of a coyote…..It is only after the coyote pursues the deer that it learns to perceive it as a threat.

Dear lord. 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

It's a good thing you dont literally slap yourself in the forehead as much as you like that emoji bruh.....

Y’all should really try over thinking things more…… It’s actually more complex than y’all are giving it credit for.

It is about human presence, I have a friend that runs cams on every field he gets 10-20 deer a day on each field members show up for youth season, no one has hunted prior to this day they select a field with terrible wind direction and see 0 deer where there have been deer every day previously. Repeat this behavior multiple times and the filed becomes less likely to have deer. The problem with your argument is I can go one day with a gun and shoot the deer I want to shoot from 200 yds away with a gun but I may have to go 10 times until he gets close enough to kill with a bow meaning I have to walk in more times, get closer to the field and leave more scent even if the wind is right, meaning I create more pressure from increased human interaction
No different than checking cameras 4 times a week, there is no bang or boom but it negatively impacts the deer