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What happened ALABAMA WHITETAIL RECORDS facebook #3577071
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What is the deal with these guys in Thomaston? Have not seen a post since the end of February '21. Seems as if they were keeping up very well for a good spell, now they vanish??? The Alabama whitetail deserves these records. Our state has such a unique story with a truly unique herd and I'd hate to see the Alabama record book just burn out. I hate to start making accusations and spewing speculation, so I won't, but what the mess?! Someone who knows those cats over there, start putting a thumb in their ribs.

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Never cared much for AWR seemed like a waste and knowing the folks that ran it your post does not in any way suprise me. Its to be expected.

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Dennis died in 2018. No idea who’s running the show now.

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ask em why they do not use Boone and Crockett scoring system any more.....


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Not to be an arse, but why don't they? Thier's was just a gross score correct?

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I'm not a big records guy, partly because someone always is trying to create their "State-County Sub-400fps Hybrid/Trad Crossbow 6-Point Velvet on a Full Moon Week in the Rainy Woods Not Over Corn" record. Everyone has to have a damned ribbon.

But, I always thought Dennis did a solid job running AWR. There didn't seem to be any BS with the records or his methodology or end results.

I don't know the current owners or anything about what's happened since 2018. But if things have declined, that's a shame.


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Originally Posted by capehorn24
Not to be an arse, but why don't they? Thier's was just a gross score correct?


B&C recinded their ability to be a B&C official scorer after investigating and rescoring a bunch of deer that had scored in correctly. This was after AWR scored a Green Co buck at over 300 inches and declared it a new world record. I think B&C scored it at less than 200 inches. They scored a buck my wife killed that scored 151 gross at 135 gross. It is a very symmetrical easy to score buck....they did it on purpose after finding out it was MY wifes buck.


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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by capehorn24
Not to be an arse, but why don't they? Thier's was just a gross score correct?


B&C recinded their ability to be a B&C official scorer after investigating and rescoring a bunch of deer that had scored in correctly. This was after AWR scored a Green Co buck at over 300 inches and declared it a new world record. I think B&C scored it at less than 200 inches. They scored a buck my wife killed that scored 151 gross at 135 gross. It is a very symmetrical easy to score buck....they did it on purpose after finding out it was MY wifes buck.


One of the family members of AWR shot at a coyote one day and his bullet hit about 3ft in front of the yote. He swore up and down he hit it on a bank shot. I quit paying much attention to him after that.

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Originally Posted by Clem

I'm not a big records guy, partly because someone always is trying to create their "State-County Sub-400fps Hybrid/Trad Crossbow 6-Point Velvet on a Full Moon Week in the Rainy Woods Not Over Corn" record. Everyone has to have a damned ribbon.

But, I always thought Dennis did a solid job running AWR. There didn't seem to be any BS with the records or his methodology or end results.

I don't know the current owners or anything about what's happened since 2018. But if things have declined, that's a shame.


Dennis and his wife were nice folks but was never sure I could beleive what they said.

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Originally Posted by Clem


But, I always thought Dennis did a solid job running AWR. There didn't seem to be any BS with the records or his methodology or end results.



Well he didn’t. It was joke. I had one experience with them and I stopped all correspondence after that. One of his scorers purposefully made up a score on a buck of mine, just like they did Fred’s, to keep me from interfering with the winner of the big 8 contest they had already decided was going to win. Kinda like dems did our last election. They scored a clean 148” 8 of mine at less than 135”. They didn’t know they were scoring someone’s rack who wasn’t naive. They made no effort to make it right so I wrote them off.

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Thanks for the input so, is that why they went to a gross because they lost B/C credentials or have the always scored both ways until problems with B/C, but just entered their gross scoring for AWR?

But if that's what they did Bham/Matt racks that is some kind of dirty pool

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they were B&C to start with till they fked up the scoring on that Greene Co buck


the current AWR typical actually is a 30+ point non typical, not a damn thing typical about that deer.

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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by capehorn24
Not to be an arse, but why don't they? Thier's was just a gross score correct?


B&C recinded their ability to be a B&C official scorer after investigating and rescoring a bunch of deer that had scored in correctly. This was after AWR scored a Green Co buck at over 300 inches and declared it a new world record. I think B&C scored it at less than 200 inches. They scored a buck my wife killed that scored 151 gross at 135 gross. It is a very symmetrical easy to score buck....they did it on purpose after finding out it was MY wifes buck.


Why did they not like you? Some bad blood?

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by capehorn24
Not to be an arse, but why don't they? Thier's was just a gross score correct?


B&C recinded their ability to be a B&C official scorer after investigating and rescoring a bunch of deer that had scored in correctly. This was after AWR scored a Green Co buck at over 300 inches and declared it a new world record. I think B&C scored it at less than 200 inches. They scored a buck my wife killed that scored 151 gross at 135 gross. It is a very symmetrical easy to score buck....they did it on purpose after finding out it was MY wifes buck.


Why did they not like you? Some bad blood?


Dennis didn't approve of me NOT entering several of my bucks. We had words over it.


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That's a damn shame. So if anyone did want to ever try to make a go at this they wouldn't want to use the tainted name AWR.


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Didn't know any of that. Dang shame that something like that would be a fubar situation.


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Didn’t know either

Politics over deer - what a load of BS - sad that dishonest pricks were running something as wholesome as hunting

U mentioned u missed a 200 inch deer in another thread Fred - what county was that in ?


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Originally Posted by TDog93
Didn’t know either

Politics over deer - what a load of BS - sad that dishonest pricks were running something as wholesome as hunting

U mentioned u missed a 200 inch deer in another thread Fred - what county was that in ?


Greene Co, just south of Eutaw in the prairie country. I was sick at my stomach to miss a huge once in a hundred lifetimes buck. Never saw him again either.


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Dang - thanks Fred


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I think I’d like to sit around a campfire with Fred for a while. I’m betting he has some good stories to tell.

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