I have about 300 acres I own that I Hunt. Shot one deer in 3 years and couldn't find it. My neighbors across the road(who shoot everything) killed the buck I was hunting last year. The neighbors on my other peice killed the buck I was hunting this year. So I'm not someone who has thousands of acres to manage. My point is two fold. For those of us who are relying on DCNR are just wasting time. It'll never help. All you can do is focus on improving you place and making it better. For all the people who want to change the laws so they can still keep killing 5-20 deer a year and still have plenty of deer that won't work either. Just killing different deer isn't going to help deer population. To sum up my point. Only way to have more deer is to stop killing so many, and the state ain't gonna help. People gotta find a way to do it on their own!