It's real simple. Killing a few more does than bucks is not necessarily a bad thing. Think about it like this.... natural buck mortality is significantly higher than doe mortality. Bucks fight and get killed, bucks succumb to rut stress and die, bucks travel long distances looking for does and get shot on other properties or run over. When you factor this natural mortality into the equation, unless you are absolutely pounding your does, your herd is probably losing the same number of bucks and does every year. It's proven that does drop fawns at an almost perfect 1:1 ratio so they are both being replaced at essentially the same rate that they are leaving the herd (unless you are over shooting the property). Bucks are going to breed whatever does are available, so if you want more deer, dont shoot does. In your simplified analysis, you also need to factor in the fact that while does do normally drop twins, fawn depredation in AL is exceptionally high. Rarely do we see large numbers of does with twins in the fall. Hogs, fire ants, coyotes, bobcats, dogs, and cars. A lot of fawns simply do not make it to maturity, so you cannot use 2 deer per doe per year for your growth number.

Just being completely honest. Your problem is not the deer. It's not the land. It's not the timber make up of your property and its not the food you plant. Your problem is you dont have a real management plan with stated goals, you do not have member buy-in on the plan, your membership numbers are way too high for the property acreage you have, and your membership make up is not correct for what you want to do. Just reading your posts, your group over hunts your land, you put way too many hunters in the woods, and you over pressure your deer. You force every deer on your property to go almost completely nocturnal, move into sanctuary areas you do not hunt, or simply move a half mile over onto someone else's property that is not constantly bothering them. The truth hurts but it's still the truth. You or your members (dont know who sets the dues or member numbers) want premium hunting at dollar general pricing and that simply does not occur anymore like it used to. You cannot put 12-20 guns on 1000 acres for 3.5 months and expect to have good hunting. As others have said, lower your membership to 5 or 6 total guns, hunt only on good winds, dont over pressure your fields, hunt travel corridors by setting tripods up in roads, get a chainsaw on a stick and do a little work in those pine plantations cutting lanes. You can limb those pines (timber company doesnt care) and create 100 yd shooting lanes that you can slip into in those planted pines when the wind is right. Get 5 members that are willing to do what it takes to have the type hunting you want to have, which in this case means 5 hunters that know how to exercise trigger restraint and are patient enough to wait for a property to develop. Building up a property takes time, money, hard labor, and trigger restraint.

I lease timber company land just like you do and the timber make-up sounds very similar to what you are describing, but our membership is kept to an absolute minimum (everyone has to pay more, way more), we are all on the same page and manage for 5 yr old bucks, we pay a lot and have have a lot of land per member, and I cannot remember the last time that someone killed a doe with a rifle on this property. We've been doing it for 6 yrs now (yep, building up a shot out property takes a long time and some lean years when you first start) and we kill studs on timber company land every year. I dont think you want to take it as far as we have but it sounds like you are trying or wanting to build a club with high deer density where you see a lot of deer and have the opportunity to kill a good buck every now and then. Skip the point restrictions, dont shoot does for a couple years and shoot only 3 yr old or older bucks to start with. Point restrictions just provide people with excuses to kill young bucks. Once you've built your population and age structure, then you can decide if you want to take it up a notch and shoot older cull bucks and trophy bucks only, or you might want to have a more traditional club where you take a few does, see plenty of deer and kill a good buck every now and then. Whichever you decide, neither is right or wrong. It is a matter of personal preference. If I'm right on the quality of hunting you are looking for, you need to purge your membership of anyone that feels that they "have" to kill a deer just because they paid club dues. Having the right members is even more important that having the right land. This comes from experience. I've been leasing land and running big acreage clubs since the early 90s. Lastly, if you cannot get the lease in your name, find another property where you can. Otherwise it will just be an exercise in frustration. Lastly, always listen to your members suggestions or wants, as they need to have input in the management plan and activities, but remember that in the end, someone has to make the final call and it's often impossible to make everyone happy. Great clubs are run as benevolent dictatorships, it's not a democracy. Best of luck with it.