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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628303
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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Lockjaw] #3628307
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
IF Putin wanted a war with US or NATO, all he would have to do is advance on a NATO country.




The problem with advancing on a NATO country is being able to sell to his people that he isn't being the aggressor.

Things like the long, lined up convoys are nothing more than a tee'd up ball begging to be swung on. Putin is desperately trying to bait someone to take a cut so that he can rally troops in "defense of the motherland." It's literally the playbook of Nazi Germany WW2.


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628314
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Obviously some here will disagree with me but I truly don't think Putin is as smart as he is made out to be and grossly underestimated the Ukrainian willpower . I think he is a bully and came to power as a bully and remained in power as a bully. I just don't think strategy and critical thinking are his stronger points.


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628318
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The first things the Russians loot are the liquor stores. I would make sure every bottle of booze had a lethal dose of fentanyl in it. Better yet, ricin. Fentanyl is immediate, ricin takes about a week to kill you.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: jawbone] #3628327
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Obviously some here will disagree with me but I truly don't think Putin is as smart as he is made out to be and grossly underestimated the Ukrainian willpower . I think he is a bully and came to power as a bully and remained in power as a bully. I just don't think strategy and critical thinking are his stronger points.


Agree 100%!

Hippie I think we need to officially test how stealthy our stealth planes really are and hit the convoy.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Lockjaw] #3628342
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
IF Putin wanted a war with US or NATO, all he would have to do is advance on a NATO country.



Let's hope that doesn't happen. War between two nuclear armed countries would not be a good thing for anybody.

But I believe if war should happen, you will see Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China as the new axis of evil.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: JR1234_] #3628349
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Originally Posted by JR1234_
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
IF Putin wanted a war with US or NATO, all he would have to do is advance on a NATO country.



Let's hope that doesn't happen. War between two nuclear armed countries would not be a good thing for anybody.

But I believe if war should happen, you will see Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China as the new axis of evil.

Especially when you consider one side has a madman as a leader and the other a blithering idiot. Which is worse?


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628355
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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: jawbone] #3628356
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by JR1234_
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
IF Putin wanted a war with US or NATO, all he would have to do is advance on a NATO country.



Let's hope that doesn't happen. War between two nuclear armed countries would not be a good thing for anybody.

But I believe if war should happen, you will see Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China as the new axis of evil.

Especially when you consider one side has a madman as a leader and the other a blithering idiot. Which is worse?


I thought they were one and the same


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: blade] #3628365
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Originally Posted by blade
I wonder how fast US could take over the air space? A day?


Or less

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628369
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So if Russia can pull in other non-NATO forces to the conflict, then perhaps Ukraine should do the same. Maybe that would open an opportunity for NATO countries to fund that new force without directly engaging. Of course we are tip-toeing along against the decision from Pootin of 'time for world war'.

Perhaps Pootin is planning to trick a NATO country or even NATO to attack as many have mentioned. When that happens, he'd rather lose old inventory and foreign troops (Syrian). Kind of a sacrificial lamb towards the end goal. There's no way IMO he'd done all of this chest beating and gathering of forces only to have the pathetic display we've seen so far. It's like he knows the WEST will see him as weak or crazy and his force out of sorts. Setting the table just like he wants.


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Lockjaw] #3628373
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
IF Putin wanted a war with US or NATO, all he would have to do is advance on a NATO country.



True, and he would make up some ruse to justify it.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628381
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the russian military is nowhere near as good as it says it is. a civil engineer, y'all, apparently planned this invasion, NOT a general. besides, ukraine has saint javelin on her side, a fine alabama connection ...


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628542
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A lot of the Billionaire Oligarchs got rich skimping on defense contracts or all out corruption. Those chickens are coming home to roost

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628548
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They thought Ukraine would be a breeze so they sent boys with crappy equipment. Now they are pissed and about to bring the big guns.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628550
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The news says it is getting very cold over there and the Russians are low on fuel to keep their vehicles warm.


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Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628561
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For the guys who think the Russians are playing some kind of chess game: what’s the endgame?

Keep wasting off lives until the proverbial catalyst enters? What’s the strategy if that doesn’t happen? What’s the strategy if it does?

You think Putin is looking for an excuse to incite nuclear warfare? Why would that make sense?

Personally I don’t give a flying phuck about either side. Good vs Evil is fairytale crap. In the real world, there’s good vs good, evil vs evil, and good that becomes evil vs evil that becomes good. All I know is it ain’t my problem. Let them kill each other and we can mop up a few years after the real fight starts…like we have in the last two world wars.






Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: BCLC] #3628569
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Originally Posted by BCLC


Negative ghost rider. I fully believe Russia is pulling a rope-a-dope Ali shuffle and the first sign of true resistance or help from the US or NATO, hell will be unleashed in a way that none of us are truly ready for.



Originally Posted by JDR4Bama


Perhaps Pootin is planning to trick a NATO country or even NATO to attack as many have mentioned. When that happens, he'd rather lose old inventory and foreign troops (Syrian). Kind of a sacrificial lamb towards the end goal. There's no way IMO he'd done all of this chest beating and gathering of forces only to have the pathetic display we've seen so far. It's like he knows the WEST will see him as weak or crazy and his force out of sorts. Setting the table just like he wants.


I have had this thought in the back of my mind since the first reports of Russian military ineptitude. It's no longer just a thought bouncing around back there. Putin is not an idiot as our own POTUS is. He is ruthless and he is smart believe it or not. He's been lining up the chess pieces for a good while now and is only burning a few pawns to finish getting the board set up. He has the rest of the world somewhat in check so to speak as it is now. He wouldn't be playing the game this way if he wasn't looking for a check mate, or at least to set Russia's status far better than it currently is. There's more to it than what we are seeing and there is more to it than what is being reported too. Watch the Rooks and Queen on the edge of the board.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: Irishguy] #3628583
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I don’t know what his end game is or what point he is trying to make. No clue on what he’s trying to accomplish. I do feel like there’s a lot broader picture to what he’s doing. Once again, no idea what it is. It makes no sense at all to half heartedly attempt to take over a country that he could have already own by now if it was just about that. Maybe he doesn’t want the corruption next door anymore, maybe a round about way of building Russia back into the Soviet Union of years ago, or got inside info from Trump about who knows what and has the balls to do something about it without it being totally obvious.......don’t know. Doesn’t make sense that it’s just about what is being portrayed. Maybe I should use regular tin foil instead of the heavy duty stuff for my tin foil hat.

Re: Sign it Might be Going Bad for Russia... [Re: doghouse] #3628592
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Originally Posted by doghouse
FreeStateHunter I hope you don’t think the number of lives lost matters to Putin. He’s staging the scene for whatever is next, as they do in Hollywood. Everyone at the table hasn’t got their ante in to play yet.


Don’t misunderstand what I said. He couldn’t care less about the actual life that is lost but he does care about the overall number of lives lost strictly because he knows it will be used as propaganda and it’s a loss of resources at his disposal.

It seems a lot of y’all are thinking he’s setting up his game pieces and what not, and I’m not saying it’s wrong I just have a different opinion. I just pull from my own military experience. Even Putin isn’t stupid enough to put his forces into bad positions to play some game daring other countries to come fight him. People forget about the logistics of war. You can’t just declare war and be on target in 30 minutes and catch everyone off guard, especially moving ground forces through swampy terrain. That takes weeks and months. That’s exactly why we knew this was going to happen in the first place.

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