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Alabama abortion #3698524
06/27/22 01:07 PM
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RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION
In Alabama, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of June 27, 2022:

A patient must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the patient from having an abortion, and then wait 48 hours before the procedure is provided.
Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.
The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.
The parent of a minor must consent before an abortion is provided.
Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.

A patient must undergo an ultrasound before obtaining an abortion; the provider must offer the patient the option to view the image.
Abortion is banned, except in cases of life endangerment and health of the patient.
The state requires abortion clinics to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant,

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698534
06/27/22 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie
RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION
In Alabama, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of June 27, 2022:

A patient must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the patient from having an abortion, and then wait 48 hours before the procedure is provided.
Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.
The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.
The parent of a minor must consent before an abortion is provided.
Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.

A patient must undergo an ultrasound before obtaining an abortion; the provider must offer the patient the option to view the image.
Abortion is banned, except in cases of life endangerment and health of the patient.
The state requires abortion clinics to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant,

Hmmm, that bias in the last sentence made my google finger twitch. Looks like that list came from The Guttmacher Institute. Seems to be very anti-abortion. https://www.all.org/planned-parenthood/guttmacher-institute

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698540
06/27/22 01:31 PM
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Reworded, for clarification:

A mother of a child must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the mother of a child from murdering the child, and then wait 48 hours before the procedure is provided.
Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover murdering the child in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.
The use of telemedicine to administer medication to murder the child is prohibited.
The parent of a minor must consent before murdering the child.
Public funding is available for murdering the child only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.

A mother of a child must undergo an ultrasound before murdering the child; the provider must offer the mother of a child the option to view the child’s image.
Murdering the child is banned, except in cases of life endangerment and health of the mother of a child.
The state requires clinics that murder children to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant, because it is inhumane and wicked.


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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698570
06/27/22 02:37 PM
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I thought they were now banned. The one in Huntsville closed down.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698584
06/27/22 03:09 PM
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Guess a lot ol boys gonna get locked up for rape now…

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Ridge Life] #3698595
06/27/22 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
Guess a lot ol boys gonna get locked up for rape now…

Rape won’t matter. Still illegal to about the child if raped.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: HippieKiller] #3698635
06/27/22 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HippieKiller
Reworded, for clarification:

Public funding is available for murdering the child only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.


They should get access to an abortion if they want. There are huge mental health issues that go along with rape.
I thought I read in Bama it would only be when it was life threatening to the mother...



Re: Alabama abortion [Re: kodiak06] #3698641
06/27/22 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by HippieKiller
Reworded, for clarification:

Public funding is available for murdering the child only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.


They should get access to an abortion if they want. There are huge mental health issues that go along with rape.
I thought I read in Bama it would only be when it was life threatening to the mother...



Reckon theres any mental health issues that would go along with a woman murdering her own baby? Do you think a woman could have a child growing inside of her and not have an emotional connection to that child? Do you really think the average woman could do away with a life growing inside her and just go right on about her business, as if it never happened? Nobody seems to want to talk about that. But ive heard women talk about the connection they have with the child growing inside them all my life. Suddenly that hasjust gone away.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698642
06/27/22 05:02 PM
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Women doing emotion based things is what most of this fuss is about.


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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698644
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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: jwalker77] #3698651
06/27/22 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by HippieKiller
Reworded, for clarification:

Public funding is available for murdering the child only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.


They should get access to an abortion if they want. There are huge mental health issues that go along with rape.
I thought I read in Bama it would only be when it was life threatening to the mother...



Reckon theres any mental health issues that would go along with a woman murdering her own baby? Do you think a woman could have a child growing inside of her and not have an emotional connection to that child? Do you really think the average woman could do away with a life growing inside her and just go right on about her business, as if it never happened? Nobody seems to want to talk about that. But ive heard women talk about the connection they have with the child growing inside them all my life. Suddenly that hasjust gone away.


Yes I do think there's mental issues if they abort but I'm not going by what I think, I'm going by what I've witnessed and there's gonna be mental issues either way. It's not my place to decide what they do IMO. I have personally seen the trauma and affects mentally and feel it's not MY CHOICE to make for them. I don't promote abortion but or agree with it but, I've witnessed the panic attacks, the night terrors, and daily reminders that they were raped and think they should have that choice up to a certain week of pregnancy. I think the government should stay out our personal lives. Just like the vaccine, I didn't want it, I didn't get it. I also didn't judge or mock anyone that did. It's between them and GOD in the end.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: kodiak06] #3698654
06/27/22 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by HippieKiller
Reworded, for clarification:

Public funding is available for murdering the child only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.


They should get access to an abortion if they want. There are huge mental health issues that go along with rape.
I thought I read in Bama it would only be when it was life threatening to the mother...



Reckon theres any mental health issues that would go along with a woman murdering her own baby? Do you think a woman could have a child growing inside of her and not have an emotional connection to that child? Do you really think the average woman could do away with a life growing inside her and just go right on about her business, as if it never happened? Nobody seems to want to talk about that. But ive heard women talk about the connection they have with the child growing inside them all my life. Suddenly that hasjust gone away.


Yes I do think there's mental issues if they abort but I'm not going by what I think, I'm going by what I've witnessed and there's gonna be mental issues either way. It's not my place to decide what they do IMO. I have personally seen the trauma and affects mentally and feel it's not MY CHOICE to make for them. I don't promote abortion but or agree with it but, I've witnessed the panic attacks, the night terrors, and daily reminders that they were raped and think they should have that choice up to a certain week of pregnancy. I think the government should stay out our personal lives. Just like the vaccine, I didn't want it, I didn't get it. I also didn't judge or mock anyone that did. It's between them and GOD in the end.


But using that line of thinking we should be allowed to kill any of our children.

It’s not the choice that’s the issue, it’s the act of taking a life.

That unborn child has rights

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698656
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The leftist loons are mostly to blame for the abortion debacle. They took it too far with late term abortions. Fully formed babies aborted an example of give them an inch they took a mile.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698660
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"Thou shalt not murder". The end, no if. and or buts. I can only imagine that rape is terrible and life scarring, but the first statement is still true. I don't see any way around this. If someone has a verse, I would love to see it, in the case of rape.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698668
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[/quote]

But using that line of thinking we should be allowed to kill any of our children.

It’s not the choice that’s the issue, it’s the act of taking a life.

That unborn child has rights
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Whatever, comparing a fetus to a living child is just silly. My line of thinking has nothing to do with killing "any" of our children lol. A rape victim now has NO RIGHTS in certain States and that's BS.
Pray none of your family members or friends ever experiences that...
The issue is people making decisions for others especially when rape is the reason, and it's not the governments place IMO. If you look at it from a religious standpoint you know they will meet their maker and answer to him.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Standbanger] #3698669
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Originally Posted by Standbanger
The leftist loons are mostly to blame for the abortion debacle. They took it too far with late term abortions. Fully formed babies aborted an example of give them an inch they took a mile.



Yep true, but both sides get too extreme
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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: kodiak06] #3698673
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
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But using that line of thinking we should be allowed to kill any of our children.

It’s not the choice that’s the issue, it’s the act of taking a life.

That unborn child has rights


Whatever, comparing a fetus to a living child is just silly. My line of thinking has nothing to do with killing "any" of our children lol. A rape victim now has NO RIGHTS in certain States and that's BS.
Pray none of your family members or friends ever experiences that...
The issue is people making decisions for others especially when rape is the reason, and it's not the governments place IMO. If you look at it from a religious standpoint you know they will meet their maker and answer to him.
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I personally think considering a “fetus” as somehow less deserving of a life is pretty silly, lol. I’ve always heard the mental gymnastics used that a fetus can’t survive on its own but how many 6 year olds do you know that are so independent they don’t need help every step of the way.

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Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
Originally Posted by kodiak06


But using that line of thinking we should be allowed to kill any of our children.

It’s not the choice that’s the issue, it’s the act of taking a life.

That unborn child has rights


Whatever, comparing a fetus to a living child is just silly. My line of thinking has nothing to do with killing "any" of our children lol. A rape victim now has NO RIGHTS in certain States and that's BS.
Pray none of your family members or friends ever experiences that...
The issue is people making decisions for others especially when rape is the reason, and it's not the governments place IMO. If you look at it from a religious standpoint you know they will meet their maker and answer to him.
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I personally think considering a “fetus” as somehow less deserving of a life is pretty silly, lol. I’ve always heard the mental gymnastics used that a fetus can’t survive on its own but how many 6 year olds do you know that are so independent they don’t need help every step of the way.
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I'll agree to disagree, but if I remember correctly 11 weeks is the magic time and comparing a fetus to a 6y/o isn't really a comparison. I do think the woman should have that choice. Everyone talks about PTSD and military members; the victims of violent crimes also deal with PTSD as well and shouldn't have their life decisions made by the government or anyone else.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698688
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So no rights were taken away, it was just clarified that abortion isn’t a right granted in the constitution. If people still want to kill their babies with no earthly repercussions they can. If someone disagrees with that I would love to see where in the constitution Abortion is granted

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3698697
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You are just a Moron. If abortion is illegal then it goes back to the definition of when life starts within that state. If that is violated, then at least it is manslaughter.


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