So now the constitution lists ALL OF OUR FREEDOMS and RIGHTS? lmao. The Constitution doesn't give you the right to make decisions for victims of rape and incest either but it's not stopping you from trying.
You can try to justify it all you want but forcing a rape victim to carry a baby full term shouldn't be the States, yours, or my decision and that's complete BS to try and do so. Luckily, they will still have options.
It's a right that was taken away since it's been in existence for 50yrs. I personally disagree with abortion, but I also know the Gov't shouldn't be handed control of our personal lives.

God plants that seed and God doesn't make mistakes

Kodiak you been living in the land of the lost to long

This.

You fellers wouldn't be trying to force your religion on Kodiak now would you

After the first trimester I disagree with abortion

Anyone familiar with the term “situational ethics”?

Anything not listed in the constitution is up to the states. That’s literally how the constitution was designed. Killing an innocent life is killing an innocent life, regardless of the circumstances.

If a rape victim carries the baby to term and then decides at 2 years old that the child just causes too much trauma and emotional damage, can they kill them? Of course not. Age doesn’t matter. A child is a child. There is no valid argument that makes a fetus anything other than a living human that has rights of its own.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion Kodiak, I just wish you’d quit saying you personally disagree with abortion then arguing for it. It’s either killing a little baby, or it ain’t. If you know it is, like I do, then there is absolutely no justification for it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with where I’ve lived lol I’ve dealt with rape victims I’ve sat through their night terrors and their PTSD. There is simply no reason to dictate what a victim of rape or incest should do with their body. That’s just common sense. People speak of evil, it’s evil to try to put them through something due to your beliefs and ignore their beliefs. It’s that simple and only a fool would not see that. It’s funny how everyone mentions the mental health of our veterans and how they were ignored. That trauma is just as bad. It’s not how I feel and it’s not my opinion it’s fact and I have observed it personally. God be with anyone on this website that would put their loved one through that and not go with their wishes If they become a victim. It’s not a republican or democrat thing, it’s a common sense thing

Numbers 5
18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse —“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it. ”
23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

I don’t know how I can explain it more simply, I don’t care for abortion. It’s not my place, your place, or the governments place to make decisions for another human being, and to expect a rape victim to carry a baby for nine months because of our beliefs or our opinions it’s just stupid. We all have freedoms that were fought for and we can make our own decisions. It’s a decision they have to live with. It’s my opinion that there should be a timeline on when they can or cannot have an abortion. But there’s a point in that pregnancy where it’s just a fetus and not murdering a child. I just think it’s funny that grown ass men think it’s their beliefs that should rule everyone else’s life. Nobody wanted that Vaccine shoved into their arm because other people wanted them to, nobody wants to give up their guns because they don’t want to. It just falls in line they’re gonna take one thing away and continue taking things away.

You’ve explained it simply enough, and you’ve actually made my point in your second sentence. Truth is, a baby is a human as well, and no one has the right to force their decisions on them.

It’s got nothing to do with religion, I’m Baptist just like most people on here. I just feel it’s not my place to make decisions like this for other people. I’m not god and it’s between themselves and God. It’s that simple.

I didn’t make your point, it’s scientific fact that that fetus is not a baby until a certain stage of the pregnancy.

Please expound on this

I think you’re confusing embryo and fetus.

Exodus 21
“When men have a fight and hurt a pregnant woman, so that she suffers a miscarriage, but no further injury, the guilty one shall be fined as much as the woman’s husband demands of him, and he shall pay in the presence of the judges. But if injury ensues, you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”

This is the last thing I’m touching on the subject. I’m not even coming back to this thread to read anything because it’s silly. It’s my wish that none of your loved ones, spouse mother daughter niece or whatever ever has to endure the trauma that goes along with the rape. I especially hope they don’t get pregnant because of it and have to carry a child because YOU decided they had to. I speak with an individual on a daily basis that went through a violent rape. June 25 was exactly one year from the date. She still sees a mental health provider, she still has night terrors, she can’t hold down a job, because of the anxiety it’s created. And because I’ve seen it on a daily basis I feel it’s not my place to make a decision for her.

You can post scripture all day long. You should go back to your first post where it read if a woman is impure. Hopefully you’re not calling a rape victim impure lol. Either way you should find scripture where it says you should be deciding What a rape victim or incest victim should do
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