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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: hawndog] #3699926
06/29/22 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by IDOT
There are legal ways to prevent pregnancy after rape. If someone gets raped, I would think that at the hospital visit they would make sure that a viable pregnancy doesn't happen. Waiting weeks, months just makes no sense.

Wouldn't that still be aborting the life after conception?

No. That is not how it works. The Plan B stops the egg from becoming fertilized or implanting. If the egg has already implanted, it will do nothing.

Implantation and fertilization are different things. If life starts at conception and conception is when sperm meets egg then plan b is abortion.

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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3699950
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What about the geriatric crowd? When we grow old, stop communicating, dribbling, totally dependent on someone to feed us, wipe our butts, cannot do anything for ourselves and become totally inconvenient to someone. Should we allow to euthanize the old geezers just because they cant fend for themselves and become a burden? Isnt this the same as abortion except at the opposite end of the age spectrum?


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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Happysappy] #3700014
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Originally Posted by Happysappy
What about the geriatric crowd? When we grow old, stop communicating, dribbling, totally dependent on someone to feed us, wipe our butts, cannot do anything for ourselves and become totally inconvenient to someone. Should we allow to euthanize the old geezers just because they cant fend for themselves and become a burden? Isnt this the same as abortion except at the opposite end of the age spectrum?


That's an excellent point and 100% valid. It was also debated nationally and for some reason, fell out of the spotlight. We come into this world with no bowel control and playing with toys, and often leave it the same way.


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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Abbhudson] #3700016
06/29/22 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by IDOT
There are legal ways to prevent pregnancy after rape. If someone gets raped, I would think that at the hospital visit they would make sure that a viable pregnancy doesn't happen. Waiting weeks, months just makes no sense.

Wouldn't that still be aborting the life after conception?

No. That is not how it works. The Plan B stops the egg from becoming fertilized or implanting. If the egg has already implanted, it will do nothing.

Implantation and fertilization are different things. If life starts at conception and conception is when sperm meets egg then plan b is abortion.


What is your position on this?

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: straycat] #3700078
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Originally Posted by straycat
Core values should define and drive decisions even in horrible circumstances.
Horrible circumstances should never define or drive core values.

Very well said

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: hallb] #3700120
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by Abbhudson

Wouldn't that still be aborting the life after conception?

No. That is not how it works. The Plan B stops the egg from becoming fertilized or implanting. If the egg has already implanted, it will do nothing.

Implantation and fertilization are different things. If life starts at conception and conception is when sperm meets egg then plan b is abortion.


What is your position on this?

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Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3700238
06/30/22 07:49 AM
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If Plan B is abortion, then so is "the pill", condoms, pulling out, and jacking off.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3700242
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I can’t fathom how so many people figure out a way to justify to theirselves something as instinctually wrong as taking an innocent life.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: Frankie] #3700335
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I have taken the position of... it's not my place to comment or spew my beliefs on this issue. It's 100% a women's issue. If it comes up for vote, I would be in favor of only women getting to vote. That will never happen but if they voted for or against I would accept their decision.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: bama_earl] #3700339
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Originally Posted by bama_earl
I have taken the position of... it's not my place to comment or spew my beliefs on this issue. It's 100% a women's issue. If it comes up for vote, I would be in favor of only women getting to vote. That will never happen but if they voted for or against I would accept their decision.
thats your belief, your a womens liber, but what if the babies a boy.

Re: Alabama abortion [Re: bama_earl] #3700370
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Originally Posted by bama_earl
I have taken the position of... it's not my place to comment or spew my beliefs on this issue. It's 100% a women's issue. If it comes up for vote, I would be in favor of only women getting to vote. That will never happen but if they voted for or against I would accept their decision.

What if the father wants to have the child. But the woman wants an abortion. What if the father wants an abortion but the mother says no. Is that still the woman’s choice? Is he still obligated to the baby?

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