Did you mis-quote the article?

I did read the first article, as you requested. It’s the contention of this lady from New York that the audible beating, from the place in the baby where the heart is, is not actually a heart beat. I happen to disagree. It’s a mute point to me, as I believe life begins at conception, but it’s eye opening the mental gymnastics folks will go through to justify killing babies.

It’s two articles. Read both instead of trying to play gotcha.

From the first article.



And if you wanna go deeper the lungs really don’t develop until much later during pregnancy

So you admit it’s your opinion and not medical facts.

There’s the problem. No real conversation to be had.

The fact is no one is qualified to say at what point is a life a life. If not the beginning, then when?

So “you” say. There in lies the problem and you can not see that for your own bias.

Ask anyone that works with premies at what point one can make it on its own. Maybe start there.

Pretty dense way to look at it honestly. I have a cousin, born at 27 weeks, undeveloped lungs the whole spill. He’s 13 now.

If you left a toddler to “make it on it’s own” as you say, how long before it dies of dehydration? It still needs nurturing.

Explain away the unique DNA? I’m curious to see what interesting concepts folks have developed to not call murder sin in that case.

Of course all this is done under the theology of science. The same theology that says there’s now 27 genders and vaccines work.

Abortion is wrong and disgusting I'm just gonna get that out there before I go into the second part of making abortion Illegal that bothers me.

If a woman is going to abort a baby then she's probably not fit to be a mother and it bothers me thinking of what kind of life these kids are going to have. But atleast they get a chance at life I guess. That's the part thats got me conflicted

Wouldn't that still be aborting the life after conception?

Ponder this Constitutional concept for a moment:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Life, it's an unalienable right. By definition it is impossible to give up or take away.
We also know that one right cannot trump another right. So in the quest for Liberty, we cannot squash the unalienable right to Life. Nor in the pursuit of Life can we unjustly squander another's Liberty.
Regarding Happiness, we have the right to PURSUE it, not a guarantee of obtaining it.

These rights were not ordained or gifted by men or some piece of parchment paper. They are God given.

In that context, the unjust taking of another life, ie. murder, robs the very heart of our founding and constitution. These truths separate us from the barbarian culture, for our nation was founded on precepts that honor and actually require Virtue for this system of government to work. The taking of innocent life is not only unjust but it is void of Virtue, regardless of in what context it was created. Abortion is a stain on the fabric of America.

In my mind, our Constitution has much to say about Life. That's my input on this topic. That plus a nickel will give you just 5 cents.

All right, let’s start there. As long as no one tears them out of their mothers womb and kills them, they can make it from the beginning.

And you were right, Carter, when you said I am biased on this issue. I will not argue that fact

Wouldn’t birth control preventing pregnancy be considered to be by some.

The theology you’re mentioning is cultural Marxism.

As you mentioned, but there is a time frame to when a zygote, embryo, fetus, baby will not make it. I’m sure in the future that point will be lowered.

This.

A premie can NEVER make it on it's own. Neither can a non-premie newborn. Not sure how the point you are trying to make is relevant to "when does life begin".

No. That is not how it works. The Plan B stops the egg from becoming fertilized or implanting. If the egg has already implanted, it will do nothing.

If we would just start castrating rapists in public this wouldn't even be a discussion.

Core values should define and drive decisions even in horrible circumstances.
Horrible circumstances should never define or drive core values.

Its amazing how the left screams for “womens rights”, “My body, My choice” Rape, incest, health of mother…..All of this is nothing more than trying to justify an abortion. Truth is, over 95% of all abortions are performed as birth control. The percentage of Rape, incest, health of the mother is a very low percentage in each of these categories. Most states allow for these exceptions. There has been talk of woman being scared from rape.( Totally Understandable) Nobody takes into account the emotional trauma women face later in life after a abortion. The grief last a lifetime. They wonder how the child would have looked, what they would have become, what their birthday would have been. Case in Point the original case of Row vs Wade. Norma McCorvey was Jane Row, she was the one who won the right for an abortion. Later in life she became “Pro-Life” because of the Grief she had to live with. She described grief that never subsided. In true leftist fashion, the left reported McCorvey recanted on her deathbed and said she was paid to say she was pro-life. Her close friends and family vehemently denied the lefts claims. People can justify it anyway they can imagine, The bottom line is a life is taken, Pure and Simple