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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: Ridge Life]
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10/12/22 05:29 PM
10/12/22 05:29 PM
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I knew what he meant, no need for me to blow up at him for that. I was the one asking advice. I’ve reviewed enough fertilizer threads from aldeer to know he knows what he is talking about. I shouldn’t even had to ask..
Last edited by Ridge Life; 10/12/22 05:31 PM.
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: Ridge Life]
#3763825
10/12/22 06:28 PM
10/12/22 06:28 PM
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hallb
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I mean, if it was a little over an acre - if you go read most of seed mix places like whitetail institute, WMS, etc - they will say if you don't have a soil test sling 300 lbs of 13-13-13 per acre. So he's really not that far off. And as you alluded to in your other post, in reality he didn't put huge amounts of the relevant NPK anyways out of all that as it's mostly filler. So I agree, putting more on is not going to be that beneficial now I wouldn't think, I'd just wait and do some nitrogen later, as I think Ron also recommended.
edit: I'm also just kind of writing out my thought process, not intended to bash anything, or say I'm actually correct. This is how I try to think thru it since I really don't have a clue, heck I'm not really quite sure I know what the 13 is, 13% of each NPK? Something like that.
Last edited by hallb; 10/12/22 06:31 PM.
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: hallb]
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10/12/22 06:35 PM
10/12/22 06:35 PM
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I mean, if it was a little over an acre - if you go read most of seed mix places like whitetail institute, WMS, etc - they will say if you don't have a soil test sling 300 lbs of 13-13-13 per acre. So he's really not that far off. And as you alluded to in your other post, in reality he didn't put huge amounts of the relevant NPK anyways out of all that as it's mostly filler. So I agree, putting more on is not going to be that beneficial now I wouldn't think, I'd just wait and do some nitrogen later, as I think Ron also recommended.
edit: I'm also just kind of writing out my thought process, not intended to bash anything, or say I'm actually correct. This is how I try to think thru it since I really don't have a clue, heck I'm not really quite sure I know what the 13 is, 13% of each NPK? Something like that. 13 lbs each of N,P and K in 100 lbs of 13-13-13
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: Ridge Life]
#3763881
10/12/22 07:20 PM
10/12/22 07:20 PM
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When I plant I put out 200lbs 17-17-17 per acre , then first week of December 150 lbs 34-0-0.
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: ronfromramer]
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10/14/22 01:49 PM
10/14/22 01:49 PM
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I think we might need a fertilizer tutorial on here. All fertilizer is not created equally. It's about the total nutrients in whatever you're using. So many pounds means nothing, it's about N,P & K per acre. Most deer plots need 60-80 lbs of N per acre if you have decent ph. You can get by with less or more. Deer will seek out the most nutritional food they can get. If your neighbor has more nutritional plots, that's where the deer will go Ive never seen a soil sample where 13-13-13 or 17-17-17 was even close to the solution. The marketing campaign for those blends are unreal, i think 90% of the population is not aware other fertilizer exists. Before i took some soil classes/got a hort degree, we ended up with near toxic levels of P due to trying to get enough 13-13-13 to actually satisfy the N requirements. It was 10 years before our samples called for any P again. I can't wait for the soil leaching portion of your tutorial, heads may explode. And i don't say that to be rude, all the fancy seed companies, and green field experts have just done a terrible job of educating people. They will push for everyone to take soil samples and in the same paragraph give blanket recommendations of 13-13-13 rates. It is maddening. Maybe we need a thread where people can post their soil samples and can get true calculations of which fertilizers/amounts. Once you figure it out, it is quite simple and makes a huge difference.
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3766151
10/15/22 07:17 PM
10/15/22 07:17 PM
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I don't need any potash on the plots I soil tested 2 years ago. Only nitrogen and phosphorus. Sounds like a little DAP in your future. Well, maybe a ton of it.
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Re: Fertilizer
[Re: Semo]
#3766236
10/15/22 08:57 PM
10/15/22 08:57 PM
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I don't need any potash on the plots I soil tested 2 years ago. Only nitrogen and phosphorus. Sounds like a little DAP in your future. Well, maybe a ton of it. Litter would be ideal, but he may like his turkeys
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