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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779407
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Went back to camp with him and the guys were saying, why did you ruin opening morning. I said hell, I killed 2 yotes.


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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779412
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^^^^

Awesome - bet it’s cool mount

They hav screwed up my deer r turkey hunts when I see them - everybody I ever hunted w would shoot them


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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779413
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Aw yea - cool mount quailman


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Re: Yotes? [Re: CNC] #3779419
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Old bucks are like grumpy old men, they wanta be left alone. Whether you're totin' a gun or not.


Properties that are bow hunted only show significant differences in deer behavior.


I'll bet a bunch of $ them bow huntin' fellers will tell ya those really old bucks are a lot less likely to walk up an present a shot than the younger ones. Way I take it you're saying they know when you're toting a gun or not.



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Re: Yotes? [Re: Josh77] #3779428
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Originally Posted by Josh77
Scientific research has shown that shooting a few coyotes during deer season does not have any effect on the deer population due to the fact they travel such long distances. You might shoot one coyote and the next day a coyote from 15 miles away will be in that exact location. The only way to 'help' the deer herd is to heavily trap/shoot coyotes when fawns are dropping.



May , might , possibly, , etc ,,,,,, are just a BS way to express a OPINION.

Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779450
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From what I've seen a shot don't much bother deer . Sure the other will run off but others will come some time . Some time one of the ones that ran off will come back .

I've killed two does out of the same group some many times it ain't funny . I'd shoot one just set there 20 minutes and kill another that came back hunting her. Course damn it I can't two does now

I've killed buck and doe from the same spot on the same hunt. I kill one and still got time I don't move .

Coyotes comes by me and lives it's because I missed

Re: Yotes? [Re: 2Dogs] #3779451
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs


I'll bet a bunch of $ them bow huntin' fellers will tell ya those really old bucks are a lot less likely to walk up an present a shot than the younger ones. Way I take it you're saying they know when you're toting a gun or not.


Most of the bucks on these places are shot from ladder stands on food plots

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Re: Yotes? [Re: CNC] #3779452
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Originally Posted by CNC
You'll never kill a good buck blasting the woods up shooting at yotes

LOL...shooting a coyote is not quite the same as "blasting the woods". Have kill more than one buck after shooting another deer and one 2 or 3 minutes after shooting a hog. Would have been the same if those had been 'yotes.

Re: Yotes? [Re: CNC] #3779453
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Originally Posted by CNC
I think lot of this goes back to a misunderstanding about what causes “pressure" and what doesnt

Yep, and shooting does not cause pressure.

Re: Yotes? [Re: Groundhawg] #3779461
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Originally Posted by Groundhawg
Originally Posted by CNC
You'll never kill a good buck blasting the woods up shooting at yotes

LOL...shooting a coyote is not quite the same as "blasting the woods". Have kill more than one buck after shooting another deer and one 2 or 3 minutes after shooting a hog. Would have been the same if those had been 'yotes.


Shooting 30-40 does off a place is " blasting the woods up". And adding pressure.



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Re: Yotes? [Re: 2Dogs] #3779471
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Groundhawg
Originally Posted by CNC
You'll never kill a good buck blasting the woods up shooting at yotes

LOL...shooting a coyote is not quite the same as "blasting the woods". Have kill more than one buck after shooting another deer and one 2 or 3 minutes after shooting a hog. Would have been the same if those had been 'yotes.


Shooting 30-40 does off a place is " blasting the woods up". And adding pressure.



Kill that many you better have a dense population or a mighty big place .

Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779513
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I’ve never trapped in a big buck’s bedroom.

I have friends who see big bucks (140” - 150”+ bucks) from tractors and vehicles all the time. Running cameras doesn’t bother these bucks. When we start hunting them the sightings then drop off.

Deer see humans and they don’t pack up and move. Deer smell humans and they don’t pack up and move. Deer by nature are nocturnal, especially old bucks, the older they get the more set in their ways they become.

The best time to trap is right after turkey season through the first month of the fawns being born.

Coyotes are like Democrats, when one moves out of their apartment another one quickly moves in. Takes a good bit of trapping to catch all of the residents and those who replace them. Once you catch them, if you sit on your laurels for a year or so then you have them just as thick as you did before the trapping.

Trapping is a sound management tool. All large property owners and clubs should implement a solid trapping plan, it’s just as important, if not more important, than QDMA or turkey management. You’ll quickly see an increase in numbers of both deer and turkeys. You hunt deer and turkeys how many hours per year? You see way more than you kill, right? A Coyote hunts full-time, 365 days a year, he doesn’t cull anything.

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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779516
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I don't pass on any predators period. The state DCNR should address this issue but not happening.

Re: Yotes? [Re: CNC] #3779525
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Originally Posted by CNC
You'll never kill a good buck blasting the woods up shooting at yotes

The rest of y’all shouldn’t argue with him, he’s right…he’s always right! He’s the expert rolleyes



Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779570
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I have shot deer that were staring at the dead coyote I had shot earlier.

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On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here.
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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lonster] #3779581
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Originally Posted by Lonster
I’ve never trapped in a big buck’s bedroom.

I have friends who see big bucks (140” - 150”+ bucks) from tractors and vehicles all the time. Running cameras doesn’t bother these bucks. When we start hunting them the sightings then drop off.

Deer see humans and they don’t pack up and move. Deer smell humans and they don’t pack up and move. Deer by nature are nocturnal, especially old bucks, the older they get the more set in their ways they become.



Farmer Brown isn't running his tractor back in the woods and bedding areas. The act of running cameras it's self doesn't bother them , it's the how , where and when. Sightings drop off in hunting season because human activity increases , we're back in the woods in their "living rooms" and "bed rooms" . Older bucks won't tolerate it. No , as a rule they don't leave , but they may as well. They get mighty good at hiding and will only move at night. When hunting older , mature bucks the less pressure and overall human presence the better IMO. I've always errored on the side of caution and it's worked pretty well.



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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779582
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Good stuff BustinBeards 😀


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Re: Yotes? [Re: Josh77] #3779584
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Originally Posted by Josh77
Scientific research has shown that shooting a few coyotes during deer season does not have any effect on the deer population due to the fact they travel such long distances. You might shoot one coyote and the next day a coyote from 15 miles away will be in that exact location. The only way to 'help' the deer herd is to heavily trap/shoot coyotes when fawns are dropping.

Right here.

I shoot them some times but not always. It’s circumstantial.

Re: Yotes? [Re: Mbrock] #3779592
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Josh77
Scientific research has shown that shooting a few coyotes during deer season does not have any effect on the deer population due to the fact they travel such long distances. You might shoot one coyote and the next day a coyote from 15 miles away will be in that exact location. The only way to 'help' the deer herd is to heavily trap/shoot coyotes when fawns are dropping.

Right here.

I shoot them some times but not always. It’s circumstantial.


Yep and yep.



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Re: Yotes? [Re: Lockjaw] #3779595
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I want to know how a deer knows the difference between you hunting them versus not. If I am walking thru the woods with a gun, checking camera's and see a deer, how does it know I am just checking my cameras? Does it instinctively know I am high grading, or passing doe's, or I have reached my buck limit?

I think if I was the only person ever on my lease, I would probably see alot of deer. I know I see less as the season progresses, and I know that is pressure, by that I mean people going and sitting in the same spots time and time again. And not paying attention to wind direction.

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