I bought a 10 pt wicked ridge and I like it. Easy to shoot, good price, etc. I'm good to 50 or so. Could go further if I practiced more. That being said, one of my buddies has a ravin, and he killed one (out of State) at 82 yards last week. He is dialed into 120, he said. He spent $1,400 on his scope. I'm not that mad at them.....