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House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... #3818171
12/21/22 07:57 PM
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Fire fighters, EMT's and LEO's ya'll please chime in.

The last time we had this kind of nasty cold roll through there were numerous house fires throughout the state. Most were caused by people being stupid with space heaters, like putting them on carpet or next to the gas can stashed in their laundry room.
Ya'll tell some obvious or not so obvious stuff you have seen to help folks prevent that kind of crap from happening.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818182
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Do not ever plug a space heater into an extension cord or power strip. They should always go straight into the wall.

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3818187
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Do not ever plug a space heater into an extension cord or power strip. They should always go straight into the wall.



I’ve always wanted the answer as to why not. The only power strip I own have built in circuit breakers. I don’t use space heaters but was curious.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: cartervj] #3818199
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Do not ever plug a space heater into an extension cord or power strip. They should always go straight into the wall.



I’ve always wanted the answer as to why not. The only power strip I own have built in circuit breakers. I don’t use space heaters but was curious.

Pulls too much current.

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818201
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I think a lot of the fires start from lack of safe clearances from the heat source.

People will put them near junk or in an area a dog/kid can bump it over onto carpet or trash,

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818203
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I’ve been in several houses that use an open oven to heat their house.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3818230
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Do not ever plug a space heater into an extension cord or power strip. They should always go straight into the wall.



I’ve always wanted the answer as to why not. The only power strip I own have built in circuit breakers. I don’t use space heaters but was curious.

Pulls too much current.


Seems it would pull the same current (amps), no matter what it is plugged into?

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: gwstang] #3818239
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Originally Posted by gwstang
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Do not ever plug a space heater into an extension cord or power strip. They should always go straight into the wall.



I’ve always wanted the answer as to why not. The only power strip I own have built in circuit breakers. I don’t use space heaters but was curious.

Pulls too much current.


Seems it would pull the same current (amps), no matter what it is plugged into?


Heater pulls the same amount of current, no matter what it's plugged in to. The issue is that the power strip can't handle the current. The heater causes the power strip to overheat


Why You Shouldn’t Use Space Heaters with Power Strips and Extension Cords

Think twice before plugging a heater into a power strip
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Greenfield Fire Territory says heaters need to be plugged directly into the wall outlet. Officals say the reason for this is that power strips and extension cords can't handle the high current flow that space heaters draw, causing them to overheat and start a fire. Officials say this can cause them to overheat and cause a fire.

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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818242
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Right, but the power strip is not rated as high as the wall outlet. Wall outlets are 15 or sometimes 20 amps. A regular 6-outlet power strip is probably not rated as high, per outlet.

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818252
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Another one that gets overlooked is the greasy fume hood over the stove top. I gotta clean mine, and ya'll should do the same. The grease will build up in side it over time but will eventually get to a flash point.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818261
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Worked in the power industry 35+ years. Over loading the power grid causes all ahead aches. Turn off what is not needed lights,washing-drying clothes, fanning doors going in and out. If a large outage happens it can time to get it all back on even after the repairs are made. Emergency responders and critical response personal will be out keeping all us safe. Thank you

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818270
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Fire fighters, EMT's and LEO's ya'll please chime in.

The last time we had this kind of nasty cold roll through there were numerous house fires throughout the state. Most were caused by people being stupid with space heaters, like putting them on carpet or next to the gas can stashed in their laundry room.
Ya'll tell some obvious or not so obvious stuff you have seen to help folks prevent that kind of crap from happening.


I pulled a guy in a wheelchair out of a house fire during the last go around. Been a minute. He positioned his portable generator exhaust next to his siding. Flames were a few feet from his head when I made entry and rolled him out. He was laying down as close as he could to horizontal in his wheel chair when I found him.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818279
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I need the proper SOP for back feeding my house with a 4500 watt generator

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818319
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I’ve been to several, where after a power outage, momma lights candles throughout the house……. pets, kids, etc knock those candles over or they went to sleep without blowing them out.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818322
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Also been to a couple where families had heat lamps for their pets too close to exterior siding. Those fires will run right up to the attic with a quickness.


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: hammerhead] #3818324
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Thanks. I will unplug mine from the power strip. I've had the strip to pop off a few times. I guess I always thought that was the built in safety in using a power strip.

Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818367
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Most electric space heaters these days cut off when they aren't level


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Re: House Fire Safety, EMT's FF, LEO etc... [Re: Skinny] #3818409
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The real fun starts when all the sprinkler systems start thawing. Lots of alarms being called in that day. 😩


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