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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: leroycnbucks]
#3840383
01/18/23 01:30 PM
01/18/23 01:30 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 400
Baldwin County
UA Hunter
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 400
Baldwin County
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Here's the best thing about our deer season and it's limits.
You can decide to go hunting or not go hunting any time between the start and end date.
You can decide to shoot does or not.
You can decide to shoot any buck as long as it meets the legal description provided by the DCNR.
You can shoot any legal deer that you want, no matter where it came from, or where it's going, because these are free ranging animals that belong to every hunter with a license.
You can decide to be a part of the solution or a part of the problem by not recording or calling your harvest number per DCNR.
You can hunt any private or public land in any zone across the state if you choose to by leasing, and owning land or just driving to a WMA.
What did I miss? Looks good to me. Zero interest in giving up a single minute of my season so someone may have a slightly better chance of killing a bigger buck.
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: UA Hunter]
#3840390
01/18/23 01:41 PM
01/18/23 01:41 PM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,089
Al, Union Grove
johnv
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,089
Al, Union Grove
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Here's the best thing about our deer season and it's limits.
You can decide to go hunting or not go hunting any time between the start and end date.
You can decide to shoot does or not.
You can decide to shoot any buck as long as it meets the legal description provided by the DCNR.
You can shoot any legal deer that you want, no matter where it came from, or where it's going, because these are free ranging animals that belong to every hunter with a license.
You can decide to be a part of the solution or a part of the problem by not recording or calling your harvest number per DCNR.
You can hunt any private or public land in any zone across the state if you choose to by leasing, and owning land or just driving to a WMA.
What did I miss? Looks good to me. Zero interest in giving up a single minute of my season so someone may have a slightly better chance of killing a bigger buck. Thats how I feel about it
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: joshm28]
#3840403
01/18/23 01:53 PM
01/18/23 01:53 PM
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Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,799
Xroads
Backwards cowboy
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,799
Xroads
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Season should be:
Jan 1st - 15th archery
Jan 16th- Feb 15th rifle
Bag limits
1 buck per year
1 doe during archery season
That's it, for the whole state. If rut doesn't fall during those dates , too bad!!! That’s the dumbest chit I’ve read in a while… Keep reading, I'm sure this thread will have no shortage of stupidity in it!
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: BhamFred]
#3840407
01/18/23 01:57 PM
01/18/23 01:57 PM
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Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,813
Chelsea
Lockjaw
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,813
Chelsea
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you have exceeded your limit of stupid posts for the year already. Please stop. +1
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: Backwards cowboy]
#3840408
01/18/23 01:58 PM
01/18/23 01:58 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 24,550
Awbarn, AL
CNC
OP
Dances With Weeds
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OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 24,550
Awbarn, AL
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Season should be:
Jan 1st - 15th archery
Jan 16th- Feb 15th rifle
Bag limits
1 buck per year
1 doe during archery season
That's it, for the whole state. If rut doesn't fall during those dates , too bad!!! That’s the dumbest chit I’ve read in a while… Keep reading, I'm sure this thread will have no shortage of stupidity in it! Yeah I got a feeling it's far from peaking yet....... 
Last edited by CNC; 01/18/23 01:58 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: CNC]
#3840427
01/18/23 02:30 PM
01/18/23 02:30 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,452
Kennedy, al
globe
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,452
Kennedy, al
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Mississippi opens their bow season two weeks before we do. I’d like a 10/1 opening bow season and go back to 1/31 to end gun season. I get more daytime buck pics from 10/1-10/15 every year
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: globe]
#3840432
01/18/23 02:35 PM
01/18/23 02:35 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 11,693
abolt300
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 11,693
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Mississippi opens their bow season two weeks before we do. I’d like a 10/1 opening bow season and go back to 1/31 to end gun season. I get more daytime buck pics from 10/1-10/15 every year Care to guess why? It, like everything else, is 100% pressure related. If you didnt hunt or go on your property at all in October and neither did any of your neighbors in the surrounding areas, you'd get those same daylight pics the first 2 weeks in Nov, Dec, or Jan depending on when you started hunting the property.
Last edited by abolt300; 01/18/23 02:35 PM.
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
#3840433
01/18/23 02:35 PM
01/18/23 02:35 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,483
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,483
Mobile, AL
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As a guy who deals with statistics for a living the amounts of holes I can poke in the statement above associated with the graph is long.
Why didn’t you map out the last 10 years?
What’s your mean? Standard deviation? How does each year compare?
Why does doe harvest numbers follow the same trend?
How are you accounting for external factors? (disease, predation, loss of habitat, etc)
What empirical evidence is there to suggest deer harvest and density numbers are related?
What have hunter days in the woods looked like compared to years past?
I can continue but those are enough to show that the chart above is just brain vomit with no context. FreeStateHunter drops mic and walks off stage
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: abolt300]
#3840434
01/18/23 02:36 PM
01/18/23 02:36 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,514
Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,514
Free State of Winston
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Mississippi opens their bow season two weeks before we do. I’d like a 10/1 opening bow season and go back to 1/31 to end gun season. I get more daytime buck pics from 10/1-10/15 every year Care to guess why? It, like everything else, is 100% pressure related. If you didnt hunt at all in October and neither did any of your neighbors in the surrounding areas, you'd get those same daylight pics the first 2 weeks in Nov, Dec, or Jan depending on when you started hunting the property. C’mon now Abolt, quit making sense in here
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: Mbrock]
#3840435
01/18/23 02:41 PM
01/18/23 02:41 PM
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Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,608
bham
crocker
10 point
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10 point
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,608
bham
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Season needs to close in north AL no later than Jan 31. Needs to close Jan 10-15 for a few areas. We are on the tail end of rut in central alabama. Deer are worn down bad. Now we have 4 weeks for everybody and their brother to shoot starving bucks off of corn piles.
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: CNC]
#3840437
01/18/23 02:41 PM
01/18/23 02:41 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 66
Pike County
seminole1
spike
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spike
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 66
Pike County
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I would think those numbers in the graph are a guesstimate at best... at least prior to game check and 3 buck limits. Just because someone makes a graph doesn't make it so. Yeah I know people cheat on limits and game check , but the numbers may be closer. How much are the lowering numbers attributed to clubs and private land owners managing their herd better? Need better data and I know that's difficult.
Go Noles and Roll Tide!
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
#3840438
01/18/23 02:41 PM
01/18/23 02:41 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 24,550
Awbarn, AL
CNC
OP
Dances With Weeds
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OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 24,550
Awbarn, AL
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As a guy who deals with statistics for a living the amounts of holes I can poke in the statement above associated with the graph is long.
Why didn’t you map out the last 10 years?
What’s your mean? Standard deviation? How does each year compare?
Why does doe harvest numbers follow the same trend?
How are you accounting for external factors? (disease, predation, loss of habitat, etc)
What empirical evidence is there to suggest deer harvest and density numbers are related?
What have hunter days in the woods looked like compared to years past?
I can continue but those are enough to show that the chart above is just brain vomit with no context. That obviously must be the reason the state hasnt made a new one since 2011....... 
We dont rent pigs
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: CNC]
#3840443
01/18/23 02:46 PM
01/18/23 02:46 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,483
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,483
Mobile, AL
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I say we move thanksgiving weekend to around January 18th, move new years weekend to January 10th and Christmas to about January 5th. Then have the season start Dec 1 and go to February 10th.
Last edited by Pwyse; 01/18/23 02:46 PM.
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Re: New Season Date Proposal
[Re: CNC]
#3840446
01/18/23 02:48 PM
01/18/23 02:48 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,514
Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,514
Free State of Winston
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As a guy who deals with statistics for a living the amounts of holes I can poke in the statement above associated with the graph is long.
Why didn’t you map out the last 10 years?
What’s your mean? Standard deviation? How does each year compare?
Why does doe harvest numbers follow the same trend?
How are you accounting for external factors? (disease, predation, loss of habitat, etc)
What empirical evidence is there to suggest deer harvest and density numbers are related?
What have hunter days in the woods looked like compared to years past?
I can continue but those are enough to show that the chart above is just brain vomit with no context. That obviously must be the reason the state hasnt made a new one since 2011....... I personally would think that the state hasn’t made one because they were estimating and now we have actual data (albeit relying on people to be honest) or for the simple fact that it’s only a number. There’s nothing that can be extrapolated from it besides how many deer were killed. There’s no basis to tie that to any other metric
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