The tree nest was a great ideal. But one serious problem, you had to stand up and turn around to tie the nest in on one side when you reach your height shown by the Tree Lounge videos, which required a BHA (bow hunter adapter foot platform). There is a way around it but not that safe. If they could put zippers on both bottom sides where you could unzip, and stick your feet through them when mounting the stand to climb like the chill pad, then turn around and sit down at your height, then zip up the bottom sides, it would be a lot easier, safer and faster......Notice one video on u-tube, the survival guy has the black lounger with no BHA, and he has the nest. But notice he did not tie the nest in and was mixed up on what to do when starting to climb down, it gets in the way. He did not show that on screen but you could hear him on mic not knowing what to do....... Beginners should not do videos on TL products that has danger.