Ikillbux I respect your opinion and can understand your frustration. I get the same feeling sometimes when hunting private land. The one thing you are wrong about, is the impact predators are having on the population. You might not see it or notice it, but I can assure it's real and a problem. Nearly every study that has been conducted in years past to the most recent is clearly showing this to be a serious problem. When hens aren't successfully hatching and raising a clutch then there will certainly be less resources available. You combine that with all time hunter participation and you have a recipe for poor hunting experiences.

Parrothead posted a pretty telling write up about were we have been across the country and we are now, nothing has changed except for less predator control, more hunters and less resources. There is one fact here, people that can control hunting pressure, habitat management and predator numbers have birds to hunt. No matter what the State DCNR decides to do with season and limits it's not going to change the fact that they have failed miserably at managing the states resources!!! The delayed season and reduced limits has been proven to have no positive impact on the population and it does not work!! They aren't going to spend the money or seek other alternatives to improve hunter satisfaction. They have so much more at their disposal they can do rather than what they did or plan to do.

For the love of god I can't understand why so many people think a government agency is going to fix this or anything for that matter. All one has to do is look at the repeated failure after failure and realize it's a pipe dream!! Our government in all branches is agenda driven and so corrupt no wonder why they fail at nearly all they do. I also don't understand why our biologist in this state and others keep looking for some big unknown as to why we aren't producing turkeys. As noted above it's right in front of their face!

I will also add you have numerous outlaws in this state that consistently kill over the state limit every year to point it's concerning. They have no regard for the resources or their fellow hunters in my personal opinion. There is no enforcement of the current law or limits. I can't tell you the last time I have seen a GW or been checked by one!!