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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
#3930393
06/23/23 10:14 PM
06/23/23 10:14 PM
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Elmore County, Al
gwstang
8 point
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Posts: 2,157
Elmore County, Al
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Don't know who they are, nor do I care.
It never ceases to amaze me how the aggressors can pretend moral superiority. Wouldn't hurt my soul if Ukraine, russia, all the soviet states, china, iran, pakistan, north korea all took an acid bath. I'd also toss in the US cia, fbi, irs, atf, and the rest of the US alphabet soup. The world would be a better place without all of them. I approve of this completely! 
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: gwstang]
#3930400
06/23/23 10:34 PM
06/23/23 10:34 PM
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Posts: 8,491
Moundville, Al
SuperSpike
The 46 Year Old Bowhunting Virgin
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The 46 Year Old Bowhunting Virgin
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 8,491
Moundville, Al
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Don't know who they are, nor do I care.
It never ceases to amaze me how the aggressors can pretend moral superiority. Wouldn't hurt my soul if Ukraine, russia, all the soviet states, china, iran, pakistan, north korea all took an acid bath. I'd also toss in the US cia, fbi, irs, atf, and the rest of the US alphabet soup. The world would be a better place without all of them. I approve of this completely! Yep! Well said.
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: SuperSpike]
#3930463
06/24/23 06:34 AM
06/24/23 06:34 AM
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Posts: 1,869
lauderdale co
brushwhacker
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,869
lauderdale co
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Don't know who they are, nor do I care.
It never ceases to amaze me how the aggressors can pretend moral superiority. Wouldn't hurt my soul if Ukraine, russia, all the soviet states, china, iran, pakistan, north korea all took an acid bath. I'd also toss in the US cia, fbi, irs, atf, and the rest of the US alphabet soup. The world would be a better place without all of them. I approve of this completely! Yep! Well said. I like this but it’s a dream .
Brushwacker
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930510
06/24/23 09:05 AM
06/24/23 09:05 AM
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Posts: 22,877
Lickskillet, AL
Irishguy
OP
a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
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OP
a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 22,877
Lickskillet, AL
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I remember when there were many people on this forum saying the entire war in Ukraine was all fake.
I'm not saying that everything you hear coming out or either side is all true either, but I am saying that it's certainly not all fake. There's definitely a lot of fighting and killing going on over there, and this whole thing going on with the Wagner Group, may not be what it seems, but it's certainly interesting and pertinent for us to follow.
It's easy to say "I don't give a chit." but if this devolves into a Civil War in Russia it can have direct and dire consequences on the entire world including Bumfuked, Alabama.
What no one in the World wants is a failed state in Russia, with a bunch of rogue Oligarch Warlords in control of a bunch of nuclear warheads.
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930528
06/24/23 09:51 AM
06/24/23 09:51 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,941
colbert county
cartervj
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,941
colbert county
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Yup you’d think the semiconductor fiasco would’ve opened eyes but everyone has a short memory
Our country’s politicians sold out long ago jus for this particular reason.
It is about world governance
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930537
06/24/23 10:34 AM
06/24/23 10:34 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 26,793
Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 26,793
Tampa
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I remember when there were many people on this forum saying the entire war in Ukraine was all fake.
No body EVER said that the war was "fake". Everyone with any sense said that it was a money laundering situation & that NATOs continual encroachment, staging a coup in Ukraine in 2014, and continually killing of people that identify as Russian in the Donbas was as responsible for the invasion as is Putin. Russia does NOT want an easy path for another invasion force to enter their country. They lost ~20% of their young men (DEAD) in WWII when Germany invaded them and no telling how many more were injured. In WWII probably 1/2 their young men were killed or injured. They are a little paranoid to invasion from Europe, so they want neutral buffer countries between themselves and NATO. This Wagner rebellion is 1 of 2 things: 1) Western propaganda 2) We bought out the Wagners with some of that $6 billion accounting error Amazingly this all happens while Hunter is getting a slap on the wrist for a gun felony, bribes to the Bidens are being exposed, etc.
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Beer Belly]
#3930544
06/24/23 10:46 AM
06/24/23 10:46 AM
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Posts: 3,082
NOALA
RidgeRanger
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 3,082
NOALA
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This Wagner rebellion is 1 of 2 things:
1) Western propaganda
2) We bought out the Wagners with some of that $6 billion accounting error
Wouldn't be a bit surprised.
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930549
06/24/23 10:52 AM
06/24/23 10:52 AM
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Posts: 72,339
Luverne, AL
Skinny
GUVNER
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Posts: 72,339
Luverne, AL
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Regardless of what the truth really is. I expect the price of all commodities to go up on Monday. Look for a big spike in the price of oil, natural gas, wheat and other staple grains, sun flowers of all things, gold, silver, etc... Prior to this, even with the invasion, it looked like Russia was still stable and together, now it looks like Russia could be in a state of total collapse.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: RidgeRanger]
#3930551
06/24/23 10:56 AM
06/24/23 10:56 AM
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Posts: 8,320
Tenn
woodduck
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Posts: 8,320
Tenn
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This Wagner rebellion is 1 of 2 things:
1) Western propaganda
2) We bought out the Wagners with some of that $6 billion accounting error
Wouldn't be a bit surprised. my money is on this
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: RidgeRanger]
#3930552
06/24/23 10:59 AM
06/24/23 10:59 AM
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Posts: 22,877
Lickskillet, AL
Irishguy
OP
a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
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OP
a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 22,877
Lickskillet, AL
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This Wagner rebellion is 1 of 2 things:
1) Western propaganda
2) We bought out the Wagners with some of that $6 billion accounting error
Wouldn't be a bit surprised. I wouldn't either. That's why the whole thing is very interesting right now. $6 Billion can pay a lot of convicts to fight on whichever side the money is on. I think most of those fighters are getting paid like $1k a month if that much.
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Beer Belly]
#3930562
06/24/23 11:11 AM
06/24/23 11:11 AM
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Posts: 10,995
coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 10,995
coffee county
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I remember when there were many people on this forum saying the entire war in Ukraine was all fake.
No body EVER said that the war was "fake". Everyone with any sense said that it was a money laundering situation & that NATOs continual encroachment, staging a coup in Ukraine in 2014, and continually killing of people that identify as Russian in the Donbas was as responsible for the invasion as is Putin. Russia does NOT want an easy path for another invasion force to enter their country. They lost ~20% of their young men (DEAD) in WWII when Germany invaded them and no telling how many more were injured. In WWII probably 1/2 their young men were killed or injured. They are a little paranoid to invasion from Europe, so they want neutral buffer countries between themselves and NATO. This Wagner rebellion is 1 of 2 things: 1) Western propaganda 2) We bought out the Wagners with some of that $6 billion accounting error Amazingly this all happens while Hunter is getting a slap on the wrist for a gun felony, bribes to the Bidens are being exposed, etc. Russia isn't worried about anyone invading them. It hasn't been a concern since the atomic bomb. That hasn't stopped Russia from invading multiple other countries though. Georgia, Chechnya a couple of times, Bosnia, Syria to name a few. They've always got some excuse why they have to invade. Only simpletons believe anything Russia says. They don't even care how ridiculous it sounds because most of it is just for their own people. However. Disgruntled Americans have recently started falling for their propaganda. The stuff you mentioned is pure %100 Russian propaganda. If you want to believe it and help spread it, that's on you. But no one else in the entire world believes it. Even most of the people in Russia don't believe, even though they repeat it, because otherwise the kgb gonna come a knocking.
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930566
06/24/23 11:17 AM
06/24/23 11:17 AM
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Posts: 26,793
Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 26,793
Tampa
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3930582
06/24/23 11:43 AM
06/24/23 11:43 AM
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Posts: 5,631
sellers, montgomery county
paulfish4570
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 5,631
sellers, montgomery county
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prighozin is a billionaire oligarch like putin and others who run things. i've said from the beginning of this mess that some oligarchs will start losing money on the fiasco, and they will turn on putin and his closest allies ...
paulfish4570
Joshua 1:9
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Re: Wagner Group Situation is Getting Interesting...
[Re: paulfish4570]
#3930585
06/24/23 11:48 AM
06/24/23 11:48 AM
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Posts: 72,339
Luverne, AL
Skinny
GUVNER
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GUVNER
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 72,339
Luverne, AL
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prighozin is a billionaire oligarch like putin and others who run things. i've said from the beginning of this mess that some oligarchs will start losing money on the fiasco, and they will turn on putin and his closest allies ... The folks that run Gazprom and the other big Russian oil and gas companies have lost billions due to the sanctions.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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