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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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What are we up to now, 6008 years? According t the scientists a few years ago it was 8 billion, today the latest estimate was 13.8 billion. So, in a decade the universe has aged 5.8 billion years, that is assuming all the scientists agree, which they dont. But the word of God dont change, has not nor will not. It is what it is. Scientists have not yet devised an accurate method of determiningbthe age of one rock, yet they try to announce the age of all the universe. Thats kinda odd to me. So 45,000+ denominations is from all that agreement? Glad the one in your neighborhood is the only correct one. I said God Joe. I did not mention denominations. The word of God dont change. And i also never stated the church where i am a member has 100% of everything correct. The things i said are the truth. Scientists do not agree on the age of the earth. There is no reliable way to age a rock. If we are going to debate a subject, lets atleast stick to what was actually said. The Earth and universe are a certain age. All the arguments aren’t going to change the reality of whatever that age is. Show me the verse where God said the age of the Earth and the age of the universe are _______. You can’t do it, because it’s not there. Or is it hidden in the genealogies and it took people 1500 years to figure it out (except not everyone agrees) based on the scripture that didn’t change over that time span? (That’s why I mentioned disagreements within the church and denominations) So do you want all scientists to agree or disagree? If “all scientists” agree on a vaccine then it’s the democrats trying to kill us. If “all scientists” don’t agree, then we’re all idiots. Which is it? Maybe numbers have changed because we have more information now? It was around 1925 before we had any evidence that there were galaxies outside of our Milky Way. Radiometric dating wasn’t discovered/utilized until the 1950s. It was 1995 when Hubble peered into the empty night sky to reveal thousands of galaxies in just a small portion of the sky. The James Webb Telescope now sees deeper into the heavens than Hubble. Should scientists not make any adjustments despite having a better picture now? The statement that “there’s no reliable way to date a rock” is a bull-do-do. Just because you don’t understand it and/or don’t like the reality it presents, doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate. I suppose part of my point is that you throw out science because ideas change (as more information is available), but speak as if religious viewpoints are rock solid since the Word of God is never changing.
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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Geology Dad Joke -- I've never dated a rock but I can figure out how old a rock is. Archaeologists love Relative Dating but its only legal in Alabama and Arkansas. Young hot rocks are easier to date than old cold rocks.
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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What kind of rock dating will age the same rock the same date twice in a row? The geneology in the Bible goes all the way from Adam to present date, that is a fact. The only space of time not defined clearly is the time Adam spent in the garden before he first sinned, thats when time started. That could have been one year, could have been a thousand years, i wont argue that because it dont say. It does however say during the six days of creation each day was one morning and night which does away with gap theory. And i do not throw away science. I use real science in about everything i do. That was another one of your false statements about me. “Real science” aka, cherry-picked science that doesn’t challenge anything debatable
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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08/03/23 05:19 AM
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There’s an awful lot of “Homos”……Either those other things arent humans or the original specie branched out and radically changed.....One of those has to be true....
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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What kind of rock dating will age the same rock the same date twice in a row? The geneology in the Bible goes all the way from Adam to present date, that is a fact. The only space of time not defined clearly is the time Adam spent in the garden before he first sinned, thats when time started. That could have been one year, could have been a thousand years, i wont argue that because it dont say. It does however say during the six days of creation each day was one morning and night which does away with gap theory. And i do not throw away science. I use real science in about everything i do. That was another one of your false statements about me. “Real science” aka, cherry-picked science that doesn’t challenge anything debatable Aging rocks Joe. Is there a method that will age the same rock the same date twice in a row? You dont seem to want to answer that question. All you seem to want to do is make fun of things i say and say i say something i didnt say. Thats pretty common though. Real scientific.
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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08/03/23 05:58 AM
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What kind of rock dating will age the same rock the same date twice in a row? The geneology in the Bible goes all the way from Adam to present date, that is a fact. The only space of time not defined clearly is the time Adam spent in the garden before he first sinned, thats when time started. That could have been one year, could have been a thousand years, i wont argue that because it dont say. It does however say during the six days of creation each day was one morning and night which does away with gap theory. And i do not throw away science. I use real science in about everything i do. That was another one of your false statements about me. “Real science” aka, cherry-picked science that doesn’t challenge anything debatable Aging rocks Joe. Is there a method that will age the same rock the same date twice in a row? You dont seem to want to answer that question. All you seem to want to do is make fun of things i say and say i say something i didnt say. Thats pretty common though. Real scientific. The answer is yes, and that is also how you verify if a method is actually working correctly. Thermoluminescence dating is verified by C14/13 dating which is also verified by Relative dating methods. Thermoluminescence is also verified KAr dating which correlates with Ui dating, Fission track dating, magnetic dating, Obsidian hydration dating, and some others. All of those dating methods were developed by Physicists and Chemists not Geologists and Archaeologists. Geo-Archs hire the Phys-Chems to date the samples and then make sense of the results. The only dating methods Geo-Archs do themselves are relative dating methods involving stratigraphic dating, ascribed dating, and seriation.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "You must have free speech in order to have democracy. That's why it is the First Amendment. And the Second Amendment is there to ensure that we have the First Amendment." -- Elon Musk 10-6-2024 "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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Everyone should immerse themselves Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John for 6 or so months then come back and have this discussion.
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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I once worked with a Neanderthal….Ol boy looked just like Boris the animal from men in black
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans
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08/03/23 08:22 AM
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Archeologists and geologists have been systematically shut down by a lot of the woke crowd because we find a lot of stuff that contradicts the narrative. Unfortunately, a lot of archeologists and geologists have embraced woke world for job security. I have seen some archeologists go out of their way to find evidence of gay acceptance and proof of multicultural harmony in the artifact record. They can only find stuff that amounts to rare anecdotes but that is enough to get tenure these days.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "You must have free speech in order to have democracy. That's why it is the First Amendment. And the Second Amendment is there to ensure that we have the First Amendment." -- Elon Musk 10-6-2024 "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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