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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: Irishguy] #3951194
08/03/23 07:37 PM
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And Blount, don’t forget about Blount. 😁

Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951211
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The hybrids can be found in Walker County. They say Bah all the time.


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And the Second Amendment is there to ensure that we have the First Amendment." -- Elon Musk 10-6-2024
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: Dixiepatriot] #3951275
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
There’s a REM 700 trigger spring somewhere in my basement. What really stunk was I ordered a new one and it had to go through an FFL.

Hahaha.i ordered three ejector retainer pins . Figured I'd need em cause I do the remove firing pin and ejector trick for finding lands to seat bullets.

Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: coldtrail] #3951290
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Originally Posted by coldtrail
Everyone should immerse themselves Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John for 6 or so months then come back and have this discussion.


Aren't these all basically retelling the story of the life of Jesus from several different people's perspective? What are we looking for in respect to this discussion?? smile


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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951369
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For me personally, if you have 100% faith in what the Bible says you have to be skeptical of the science of human history . I do believe in science up to a point . The Bible is interpreted in different ways for many people an most of it is a mystery to me . Our documented history is good so far back then it’s just a guess to what happened . Like global warming . We only been keeping records for 100 years . Our timeline of years could be so different to what the Bible says . This world could been here for millions of years or just few thousand. We just don t know for 100% sure . An whats out there at the edge of our universe that we can’t an will never see. Could be another planet just like ours. Could be thousands of them . We just don t know but I have faith we will know one day if we get the opportunity to meet god. There is so many mysteries that will be answered.


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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: jwalker77] #3951430
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Probably should go over the giant skeletons found, if were gona get into digging up bones. What point in history is it where the scientists say the giants were here? Where do they belong in our evolution?


The Nephilim...before the flood and popped up again in Ancient Sodom/Gomorrah.."Men of renowned", Fallen angels mixed with Men...Satan's mockery of the Sacrificial son of God...easily explainable

Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: Skinny] #3951432
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Giants were never here, that is a bunch of crap.


No it is not...check into Genesis 6:4

Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951456
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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: Nightwatchman] #3951510
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Skinny
Giants were never here, that is a bunch of crap.


No it is not...check into Genesis 6:4

And here i am again asking myself "who do i believe?"

Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951525
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they wrote the Bible in a time when people still believed in Dragons and other Monsters. Think about all the stuff... like cutting you open and letting you bleed out to cure a disease. It is unbelievable how far we have come in the last 200 years.... given the history and age of Man let alone Earth itself. For myself I have to consider that. I am not going to tell you what conclusions I have drawn for myself...rather tell you that you will have to draw your own conclusions.... but thinking about this is not a negative it is what challenges your faith. I don't understand how you cannot continually challenge your position on just about every topic, however, this is apparently easily done for some... some seem to be able to decide their position and just go with it in a black and white sense. Most of the time I wish I was that way. I am not.


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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951542
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From what I gather by looking at the situation…….the main underlying storyline and message is that the Jewish people formed a covenant with God through Abraham……they didn’t act right for a long time, getting exiled and enslaved…..there was a prophecy of a savior that would eventually come……Jesus showed up as that savior and fulfilled that prophecy and gave us all a blueprint for how to act and a path to redemption…..etc…etc……

That seems to be the most important points to recognize and believe in…….Whether or not something was literally a fiery chariot in the sky carrying angels or actually just meteorite is of little consequence in my mind. I recognize just like Goatkiller that these were different times and they didn’t have the same means of explaining some things like we do now. I also look at the creation story in Genesis the same way. It’s a story passed down by Moses of an ancient people doing they best they can to describe the beginning…..It doesn’t have to be literally true for me to believe in the underlying message stated above. These people had no understanding of Neanderthals and prehistoric man when they wrote these things but that’s ok


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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: 3% outdoorsman] #3951543
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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
There’s a REM 700 trigger spring somewhere in my basement. What really stunk was I ordered a new one and it had to go through an FFL.

Hahaha.i ordered three ejector retainer pins . Figured I'd need em cause I do the remove firing pin and ejector trick for finding lands to seat bullets.
Can we talk about the worst thing in guns, AR front pivot spring and detent. I have probably five detents in the shop.

I dont know the answer on new earth vs old earth. I been to the ark, watched many videos from Ken Ham. I am thankful my salvation isnt tied to the dating on earth or if dragons were on the earth (I believe so).


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951578
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Back to the original question about Neanderthals and Humans…….

I know I’m being an internet researcher here but from doing a little digging here’s what it seems like happened. For whatever reason a long, long time ago there was a primitive specie of Hominid in Africa. Now something about this Hominid and the subsequent lines descending from them have changes occurring in the brain that I don’t understand yet. We’re getting smarter with bigger brains over time. Whatever the case may be, there was a time when we deviated down a different path starting with a very small population or even just one or two…..your Adam and Eve.

What came after the split or creation of this Hominid with the unique brain took hundreds of thousands of years. It would have likely all centered around resources in the beginning and then eventually maybe some tribal disputes…….but populations would have grown from an epicenter and then had off shoot populations who “dispersed” from the that point over time either looking for new resources or being runt off by the others for some reason. There was a time when you had your very first off shoot population to set up and establish in a new region of Africa……and then your second one and so on……..

But you have to imagine that over time…..and remember we’re talking about this all playing out over thousands of years….. You would have had physical changes occur in the off shoot populations according to the type of new resources and climate in which they existed……and you would have then also had these secondary population centers eventually have off shoot populations created from them as well that ventured on out further. Eventually all of this led to one of the off shoot populations making its way out of Africa and starting to inhabit Asia and Europe.

So for hundreds of thousands of years you had these hominids pushing outward into new isolated populations where they grew and changed according to what the region offered and you ended up with all of these varying forms of human. You even had one group (homo erectus) that got isolated on a big island and the new population eventually turned into hobbits due to “environmental” influences.

I’m sure that over this time you had populations that made it and ones that didn’t…….ones that originally established for a time period but then went extinct due to starvation or what have you. You would have also eventually had those original hominid populations back behind you in Africa and at other points along the trail still migrating forward over time too. So you got some intermixing. Again we’re talking about over a long, long time period this is occurring.

What eventually happened was just like extinction events with other animals……What started out as a bunch of different off shoot populations...we saw some die out and then the others multiply and take over the space. Also, overall human populations would have eventually gotten big enough that “isolation” no longer played the same role and we would have started to become more genetically diverse as a whole so you didn’t have the same “pure bred” hobbits and such due to so much intermingling between groups. We eventually ended up with one big group we call Homo Sapiens

Something like that anyways………..


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Re: Neanderthals and Humans [Re: CNC] #3951638
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Originally Posted by CNC
From what I gather by looking at the situation…….the main underlying storyline and message is that the Jewish people formed a covenant with God through Abraham……they didn’t act right for a long time, getting exiled and enslaved…..there was a prophecy of a savior that would eventually come……Jesus showed up as that savior and fulfilled that prophecy and gave us all a blueprint for how to act and a path to redemption…..etc…etc……

That seems to be the most important points to recognize and believe in…….Whether or not something was literally a fiery chariot in the sky carrying angels or actually just meteorite is of little consequence in my mind. I recognize just like Goatkiller that these were different times and they didn’t have the same means of explaining some things like we do now. I also look at the creation story in Genesis the same way. It’s a story passed down by Moses of an ancient people doing they best they can to describe the beginning…..It doesn’t have to be literally true for me to believe in the underlying message stated above. These people had no understanding of Neanderthals and prehistoric man when they wrote these things but that’s ok

This is somewhat aligned with where I find myself. I know and accept that there is much that I don’t understand about it all and I’m ok with that. I know my understanding will be complete one day but not earth.

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