When I checked those two in the past week, they were operating properly. Just had them in places where animals hadn't found my mineral licks just yet.

I think Spartan is probably still a step above most brands but the price is also. They come with 2 year warranties and can normally resolve issues. I still have some 3 g cams that I use as regular cams once 3g went out an have been using them for probably 5 years. its hard to get any cam to last over 2 years much less a cell cam.