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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Ridge Life]
#3961323
08/20/23 06:48 AM
08/20/23 06:48 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,897 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
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Lower AL
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Increase your seeding rate at least 30%. If you have a heavy thatch layer be prepared to apply N as it breaks down.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: k bush]
#3961657
08/20/23 06:47 PM
08/20/23 06:47 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147
Awbarn, AL
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If you have a heavy thatch layer be prepared to apply N as it breaks down. I'll add to this......keep adding clovers to the mix to help with N and to moderate the amount of thatch……1/3 grass…..1/3 broadleaf……1/3 legume…….You're basically wanting the weedy clover that so many folks want to fight to keep clean.
Last edited by CNC; 08/20/23 06:48 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Chiller]
#3961668
08/20/23 07:02 PM
08/20/23 07:02 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,010 Mobile, AL
Pwyse
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,010
Mobile, AL
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I do a variation and it's because lack of equipment and frankly I'm just cheap. No spray no bushhog. Show up to plot. Spread seed and fertilizer. Run over with a four wheeler a few times and head to next plot. Timing the rain will be the key. I have had really good success so far and I dont do anything else to plots rest of season and see good numbers of deer. Maybe one day I'll be able to have and use equipment but for the last 4 years this has been working. That’s interesting. Do you have any pics of the plots? What they look like with the summer weeds and then what they look like during deer season? This sounds way too easy to be true! Not saying you are lying, I just want to try it.
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Pwyse]
#3961799
08/20/23 09:36 PM
08/20/23 09:36 PM
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Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 699 Here
Chiller
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4 point
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I do a variation and it's because lack of equipment and frankly I'm just cheap. No spray no bushhog. Show up to plot. Spread seed and fertilizer. Run over with a four wheeler a few times and head to next plot. Timing the rain will be the key. I have had really good success so far and I dont do anything else to plots rest of season and see good numbers of deer. Maybe one day I'll be able to have and use equipment but for the last 4 years this has been working. That’s interesting. Do you have any pics of the plots? What they look like with the summer weeds and then what they look like during deer season? This sounds way too easy to be true! Not saying you are lying, I just want to try it. I do not have any pictures. Never really thought about taking any. A summer time picture would be weeds and grass about head high. In season picture would be a food plot with some standing dog fennel. Which oddly enough has worked out well for me. I guess they like the added cover. I have noticed the past few years that the plot that has the most standing dog fennel has the most mature buck sightings. My plots wont win any awards but they have produced. Its all about your goals. I have been on hunts other places where the plots were beautful with no deer or a ton of small bucks and does. If you like to just see deer then that's great. But personally, I'd rather put some on the wall. Which in four years of doing this way I have. Good luck to you and yours if you try it. Alot easier. Alot chaper
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Chiller]
#3962047
08/21/23 11:04 AM
08/21/23 11:04 AM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,489 Alabama
Shaneomac2
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,489
Alabama
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I do a variation and it's because lack of equipment and frankly I'm just cheap. No spray no bushhog. Show up to plot. Spread seed and fertilizer. Run over with a four wheeler a few times and head to next plot. Timing the rain will be the key. I have had really good success so far and I dont do anything else to plots rest of season and see good numbers of deer. Maybe one day I'll be able to have and use equipment but for the last 4 years this has been working. ANY pics of your fields?
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Ridge Life]
#3962192
08/21/23 03:39 PM
08/21/23 03:39 PM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 11,817 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 11,817
Earth
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Mossy - i been using eraser and it super expensive - still got some left from last year and if i ran out tractor supply had some 41% glycal i was gone try. Anybody tried the 41% for killing grass n field ??
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: TDog93]
#3962210
08/21/23 04:16 PM
08/21/23 04:16 PM
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Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,641 Chelsea
Lockjaw
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,641
Chelsea
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Mossy - i been using eraser and it super expensive - still got some left from last year and if i ran out tractor supply had some 41% glycal i was gone try. Anybody tried the 41% for killing grass n field ?? Yes and it will burn it down. I like 2,4DB for weeds. It doesn't kill all the stuff 41% gly does, but the stuff it kills, it kills it. If you want a no till that works well, plant a mix of soybeans, clay peas and sunn hemp in the spring. Broadcast it into your standing fall crop and then mow it ahead of rain. In the fall, just come in, and broadcast your fall mix into it. Come back ahead of rain and add some fertilzer and watch what happens. The killer of a summer plot is bare ground. Bare ground holds zero moisture, so the more organic material you have on top of it, the more moisture it retains. If you have a thick canopy of beans/peas, you would be surprised how much moisture is in the ground below them. Its forcing me to rethink my clover plot strategy. If we have a wet summer, then the clover does great. Last 2 summers haven't been wet enough. So its gotten thin. I hate to spray it or cut it while its stressed, which means when you can spray it, weeds are much more trouble. I got one field I am going to have to start over on, and I replanted it with soybeans, which the deer hammered, and then I put some brassicas on it about 3 weeks ago, and it looks like I am going to have to come in and hit it with GLY to knock the weeds back again. I am waiting to see what the cleth does on the grass.
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Ridge Life]
#3962249
08/21/23 05:46 PM
08/21/23 05:46 PM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 11,817 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 11,817
Earth
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Thanks - goodstuff Lockjaw
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Shaneomac2]
#3962256
08/21/23 05:57 PM
08/21/23 05:57 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147
Awbarn, AL
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I do a variation and it's because lack of equipment and frankly I'm just cheap. No spray no bushhog. Show up to plot. Spread seed and fertilizer. Run over with a four wheeler a few times and head to next plot. Timing the rain will be the key. I have had really good success so far and I dont do anything else to plots rest of season and see good numbers of deer. Maybe one day I'll be able to have and use equipment but for the last 4 years this has been working. ANY pics of your fields? Here's basically the same thing done with a tractor.......Couple weeks after planting. Few more weeks after that.......
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Non discing folks?
[Re: Chiller]
#3962429
08/21/23 08:42 PM
08/21/23 08:42 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,147
Awbarn, AL
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^ that's it. CNC have you had success with leaving an edge like that in the bottom pic on the left? Yes, I basically just cut the plot out of it and leave the perimeter.
We dont rent pigs
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