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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Fatherof2]
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11/05/23 04:58 PM
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If it’s as easy as printing more money, then why can’t the Ukrainian government just print more themselves. Let their inflation get out of hand…no opportunities for kickbacks that way. That’s the reality of the matter. Its against US policy to allow any country that is used for money laundering to be in control of their own economy. That rule was established not long after WWII.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/05/23 05:09 PM
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If everyone is making so much money why would they wanna stop? I'll give you a hint. The Russians are the only ones wanting a ceasefire. If the Russians wanted peace they could withdrawl tomorrow
Maybe they'll promise not to invade again for the third time. I'm sure they really mean it this time.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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11/05/23 05:24 PM
11/05/23 05:24 PM
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If everyone is making so much money why would they wanna stop? I'll give you a hint. The Russians are the only ones wanting a ceasefire. If the Russians wanted peace they could withdrawl tomorrow
Maybe they'll promise not to invade again for the third time. I'm sure they really mean it this time. Thats the thing. More money will be going to Ukraine but it will not be with Congress saying "Money for Ukraine". It will now say "Money for military readiness" or something like that. Then the Pentagon will quietly send it to Ukraine.
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"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/05/23 06:51 PM
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It isn't the loss of 6 tanks. It's the loss of 6 of their very best tanks that aren't easily replaced. Couple that with the loss of aircraft and manpower and Ukraine is in a bad spot. Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to keep this up. Your source on that link is the one talking about peace talks. https://www.businessinsider.com/wes...aine-consider-peace-talks-russia-2023-11
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/05/23 06:55 PM
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I remember seeing we gave another 450 million to Ukraine on Friday.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/05/23 07:05 PM
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Russia has counted on the fact that ukraine couldn’t sustain the same rate of human losses. Its just a number to the russians.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: jmudler]
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11/05/23 07:16 PM
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I remember seeing we gave another 450 million to Ukraine on Friday. Don't worry, that's not real money, just numbers.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Dustin]
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11/05/23 08:00 PM
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I remember seeing we gave another 450 million to Ukraine on Friday. Don't worry, that's not real money, just numbers. That's true, $125 million is the value of military equipment The other $300 million isn't exactly money. It doesn't specifically list what it is though. Only Additional laser-guided munitions to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems https://www.defense.gov/News/Releas...ces-new-security-assistance-for-ukraine/
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Beer Belly]
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11/05/23 08:54 PM
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This was a giant money laundering operation from the get go, just like 99% of aldeer tried to tell everyone.
Now we are going to give $250 billion to Black Rock to rebuild Ukraine and 10% of that will be kickbacks.
The DNC will used Ukraine kickbacks to support their 2024 presidential campaign.
I do believe you have this figured out.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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11/05/23 08:58 PM
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That's true, $125 million is the value of military equipment
I wish the IRS would let me use the same depreciation rules as the government
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/05/23 09:29 PM
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When I was in Canada, an interesting point was made by the locals. He said that there were a lot of Ukrainian young men in Canada and they keep coming. Thirs place had no industry other than farming for jobs.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Dustin]
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11/05/23 09:31 PM
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That's true, $125 million is the value of military equipment
I wish the IRS would let me use the same depreciation rules as the government Seems no thought was given to who paid for the military equipment. That would be us. Our govt has no money without us. It dont matter how you spin it, we still gave that money to them.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: jwalker77]
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11/06/23 09:03 AM
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That's true, $125 million is the value of military equipment
I wish the IRS would let me use the same depreciation rules as the government Seems no thought was given to who paid for the military equipment. That would be us. Our govt has no money without us. It dont matter how you spin it, we still gave that money to them. you do realize that military equipment has a shelf life. There's also a cost associated with storing/guarding, maintaining and de-milling equipment, don't you? Plus donating old equipment and replacing with modern munitions pumps money into civilian companies, through gov contracts plus sales to other countries?
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/06/23 10:16 AM
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Well that was fun. I am guessing the next step is for the United States taxpayers to rebuild their Country..... 
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Goatkiller]
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11/06/23 10:42 AM
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Well that was fun. I am guessing the next step is for the United States taxpayers to rebuild their Country..... Rebuilding Gaza into a nice livable place is also going to be expensive. But at least Israel is going to level the lot to make it easier to develop into a nice resort community.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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11/06/23 10:44 AM
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A lot of people died for nothing and billions of our tax dollars wasted. Russia will probably sweep in and take the whole country now. It went exactly as planned. Lockheed Martin, Northrop and the other war mongers didn't think it was a waste. They fattened their wallets. Just imagine how much of our tax money was skimmed off the top in each bundle we sent them from politicians and anyone else who is involved. We sent the Taliban 160 million dollars. Israel is the same way. Imagine the USA keeping it's money within our border, securing our own border and minding our own business. We could have teachers getting paid well. Armed police in schools. Modern infrastructure, higher social security and anything else we wanted. This guy is my write in candidate!
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Re: Well, Well, Ukraine nudged to seek peace
[Re: Kudzu]
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11/06/23 12:09 PM
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If it’s as easy as printing more money, then why can’t the Ukrainian government just print more themselves. Let their inflation get out of hand…no opportunities for kickbacks that way. That’s the reality of the matter. If someone offered to pay me with a hryvnia, I'd wonder what it was, then say no.
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