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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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So when it’s sprayed and kills 99% of everything there what’s that called? No forage, no cover, just very small pine trees, it will be what 2 yrs before anything comes back? When it grows back it will be good but it’s not at this time. Are any of y’all herbicide applicators? Just curious. The residual on Imazapyr is 6-9 months. Vegetation returns the following growing season. Herbicides are used often to control and manipulate vegetation. It don’t last long. The only year it’s dead is the fall it was sprayed. There should be very little to no hardwood competition the following spring, but the herbaceous vegetation returns.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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The right clearcut (location) and it really doesn’t matter. I have 4 dif stages of clearcut right now and I’ve seen more this year on what was sprayed in august. They’ll plant it next month.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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Clearcuts n right location = awesome
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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12/29/23 05:59 PM
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I hope it does grow back next season, would be nice. So of my 135 acre lease 75% is the 2 yr old clear cut, 25% is about a 15 yr old clear cut that was replanted to a degree but otherwise has grown up and is pretty much impossible to go into without alarming every animal in the area. The other 25% is a clear cut that was replanted maybe 4-5 yrs ago. On the other side of the lease is 300 acres that was just cut this August and now has “if it’s brown it’s down” hunters on it. When they sprayed it killed everything except for the pines and the holly trees. The deer population has significantly dropped since the first yr of being cut, so all I can do is wait and see what happens. I bought a saddle and and got into a few trees in between the clear cuts and saw a few deer but things just seem out of the ordinary.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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12/29/23 10:13 PM
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sbo I hope it does grow back next season, would be nice. So of my 135 acre lease 75% is the 2 yr old clear cut, 25% is about a 15 yr old clear cut that was replanted to a degree but otherwise has grown up and is pretty much impossible to go into without alarming every animal in the area. The other 25% is a clear cut that was replanted maybe 4-5 yrs ago. On the other side of the lease is 300 acres that was just cut this August and now has “if it’s brown it’s down” hunters on it. When they sprayed it killed everything except for the pines and the holly trees. The deer population has significantly dropped since the first yr of being cut, so all I can do is wait and see what happens. I bought a saddle and and got into a few trees in between the clear cuts and saw a few deer but things just seem out of the ordinary. some of the best hunting i ever done was on clear cuts. no green fields or corn . the does and big bucks are going to use it as bedding . cold sunny morning is your best time stay as long as you can .
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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12/30/23 09:04 AM
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Cutting timber does not affect the deer population.
135 acres isn’t much property, the deer just moved over a couple hundred yards so they would have food and cover.
Your property is probably only 440 yards wide, a 40 acre block is 440 yards wide by 440 yards tall.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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I’ve killed 4 deer this season in a clearcut that was sprayed this summer and looks like it was nuked. One was a 5yr old year old that I watched bedded down right at daylight. There were much better (thicker) places he could have bedded nearby but he chose the sprayed clearcut.
Deer will still use a sprayed clearcut.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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I don’t think some of you are reading the entire post. Not only was my lease cut and sprayed, the adjoining 300 acres was cut and then leased to people who have been shooting everything that walks. I would imagine that with all of the natural forage in a large portion of my lease being killed and then the adjoining 300 acres cut will have some effect on the deer. Based on my observations over the past 13 yrs something has caused the number of deer to decrease significantly in the past 2 yrs. I’m assuming that they are on the adjacent property that has not been cut or receiving any pressure.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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Any way thanks to those of you who actually answered the original question.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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“ How long does it take for the clear cut to grow enough that the deer start returning?”. I’ve heard 2-3 yrs after cutting it begins to attract deer, but spraying? Deer will move through it to get from point A to B but it’s not holding deer. This area used to be a bedding area for does before being cut. I agree that the gun happy neighbors could be contributing to deer not using the cutover since there is no cover so it’s just a matter of waiting* to see.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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I will agree there’s no food in a sprayed clearcut. About the only thing living in mine is Holly’s and a few briars.
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Re: Deer population recovery after clear cutting
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I don’t think some of you are reading the entire post. Not only was my lease cut and sprayed, the adjoining 300 acres was cut and then leased to people who have been shooting everything that walks. I would imagine that with all of the natural forage in a large portion of my lease being killed and then the adjoining 300 acres cut will have some effect on the deer. Based on my observations over the past 13 yrs something has caused the number of deer to decrease significantly in the past 2 yrs. I’m assuming that they are on the adjacent property that has not been cut or receiving any pressure. The answer would be the same if it were any other place ,,,,,,,,when people stop killing ever thing they see. I hunted a 1100 ac clear cut in Tallapoosa county for years seeing deer was no problem. It was dog hunted and the land around it was too. No green fields or corn back then
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