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Craig Harper Approach
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01/04/24 01:01 AM
01/04/24 01:01 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 177 Alabama
RandanAL
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3 point
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Alabama
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I've recently been listening to some stuff from Craig Harper and his approach is pretty interesting. This is obviously a huge oversimplification but I'm intrigued.
"Greenfields" - He basically recommends an "old field" approach where you maybe cut it 1x per year or even less, and spot kill unwanted species with herbicide. Target 4-5ft tall cover with a lot of forbs. Potentially mow a strip out in the middle of it that you can only see from ground level via an elevated stand. Put a corn feeder out in the middle of it if you want to see a bunch of deer. Big focus on creating some structure to the field in order to create some level of cover along with additional food.
"Forest Management" - Leave mostly mast producing trees (Oak, Beech, Pecan, maybe Hickory, Fruit Trees) and then kill, hinge, or stump everything else.
Does anyone use an approach like this? Seems relatively lower maintenance.
Anecdotally - we had some greenfields at our old lease that were (mostly) plain grass with some clover and other things we'd planted over the years mixed in, though it was low effort planting and none of it really took off. Deer would stop by there but it wasn't really a "destination" location. My dad liked "playing farmer" and would brush hog the fields about once a month. The last year we had the lease, he got a bit sick, and it was barely brush hogged. We saw more deer in it that year than in other years where it was consistently cut.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 04:48 AM
01/04/24 04:48 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,115 Lower AL
k bush
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Dr Harper calls it recreational mowing. Likely the worst “habitat” treatment you can apply. Park the bush hog.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
#4053301
01/04/24 09:45 AM
01/04/24 09:45 AM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,946 Alabama
Shaneomac2
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14 point
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ANYONE have some of his books?
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 11:32 AM
01/04/24 11:32 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,115 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
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I have his Food Plot and Early Successional habitat book, which is out of print. Supposed to be an updated version released this year and it's worth every penny, just for the tables in the appendices if nothing else. I also have some of his publications in printed pdf's on old field management, NWSG etc.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 11:40 AM
01/04/24 11:40 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 24,866 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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There's nothing wrong with a disk or a bushhog.....Its the knowledge of knowing how and when to use them. I've grown great greenfields for years with nothing but a spreader and mower
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: k bush]
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01/04/24 12:09 PM
01/04/24 12:09 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 177 Alabama
RandanAL
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Dr Harper calls it recreational mowing. Likely the worst “habitat” treatment you can apply. Park the bush hog. This cracked me up. I told my dad the term - he laughed and said "yep mowing fields is a lot of fun".
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: k bush]
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01/04/24 12:15 PM
01/04/24 12:15 PM
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RandanAL
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I have his Food Plot and Early Successional habitat book, which is out of print. Supposed to be an updated version released this year and it's worth every penny, just for the tables in the appendices if nothing else. I also have some of his publications in printed pdf's on old field management, NWSG etc. Yea I'm going to order the revised... it's ~$100 but seems like a great resource. Evidently the thing is 500 pages... My dad is getting into his 80s, and I don't live anywhere near our hunting land, so he handles more of the maintenance. It seems like reshaping the forest a bit, mowing fields 1x per year, spot treating undesirable plants (I can handle), and hiring someone to do a burn periodically is a lower maintenance approach than mowing greenfields and planting.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 01:10 PM
01/04/24 01:10 PM
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Posts: 8,946 Alabama
Shaneomac2
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what i belive hes talking baout is what i would love to do on our club. Safe haven and food for the deer so hopefully i can increase the number of deer i see and harvest..
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 01:49 PM
01/04/24 01:49 PM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,433 AL
Gobble4me757
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12 point
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What’s the difference between mowing a field vs bushog? I have been told multiple occasions lately to not bushhog but people talk about mowing etc? I figured they were one and the same?
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion 2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
#4053436
01/04/24 01:56 PM
01/04/24 01:56 PM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,946 Alabama
Shaneomac2
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im guessing the level of which you cut the fields? mowing you dont cut it all the way down versus what you would with a bush hog...
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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01/04/24 02:34 PM
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Posts: 6,115 Lower AL
k bush
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What’s the difference between mowing a field vs bushog? I have been told multiple occasions lately to not bushhog but people talk about mowing etc? I figured they were one and the same? Same.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/04/24 02:36 PM
01/04/24 02:36 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,115 Lower AL
k bush
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12 point
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Dr Harper calls it recreational mowing. Likely the worst “habitat” treatment you can apply. Park the bush hog. This cracked me up. I told my dad the term - he laughed and said "yep mowing fields is a lot of fun". Buy him a hatchet and a spray bottle for herbicide. Remove the driveshaft from the bush hog and take it with you.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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01/04/24 04:09 PM
01/04/24 04:09 PM
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Posts: 177 Alabama
RandanAL
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What’s the difference between mowing a field vs bushog? I have been told multiple occasions lately to not bushhog but people talk about mowing etc? I figured they were one and the same? I'd say they're very similar in this case. Bush hogging is cutting anything from larger brush to basically mowing grass, but you're using a tractor Mowing is generally just grass, but you could be using either a mower or a bush hog At least that's the context I've always understood it.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: Shaneomac2]
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01/04/24 04:11 PM
01/04/24 04:11 PM
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Posts: 177 Alabama
RandanAL
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what i belive hes talking baout is what i would love to do on our club. Safe haven and food for the deer so hopefully i can increase the number of deer i see and harvest.. Yep - it seems interesting. Basically creating a something like a food rich bedding area that you can hunt from an elevated position. Theoretically deer should feel safer moving in it though I'm sure you still need to hunt the wind etc.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
#4053529
01/04/24 04:17 PM
01/04/24 04:17 PM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,946 Alabama
Shaneomac2
14 point
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what i belive hes talking baout is what i would love to do on our club. Safe haven and food for the deer so hopefully i can increase the number of deer i see and harvest.. Yep - it seems interesting. Basically creating a something like a food rich bedding area that you can hunt from an elevated position. Theoretically deer should feel safer moving in it though I'm sure you still need to hunt the wind etc. bingo!
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Craig Harper Approach
[Re: RandanAL]
#4053604
01/04/24 05:57 PM
01/04/24 05:57 PM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 11,489 Northwest Bama
Ridge Life
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 11,489
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I have a field that may be 2 acres at most.. I do plant it and it stays eat down. But it is in the center (dead in the middle) of about 80 acres. Surrounding the field is volunteer pine/gums/brush/briar thickets, I’d say 40 acres. Outside of the thickets are old growth hardwood, oaks and such, about 40 acres. I can see as many as 20 deer on camera there at times… get pics all throughout the day…if I ever feed anything they will be there before the wheeler gets good and gone of the field..
Last edited by Ridge Life; 01/04/24 05:57 PM.
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