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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/14/24 12:20 PM
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Tracking deer has never really been an art for most people to begin with......There's a lot more to it than just being able to find a spec of blood
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/14/24 12:42 PM
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What I and others do now with a dog is far more of an art form when it comes to “tracking” than most anything that has gone on in the past. I can come out in most situations…. take the evidence we find along with the dog’s behavior and accurately assess exactly where you hit the deer and what happened from there. No human has ever been able to do it to the degree that we can with a good dog
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/14/24 02:35 PM
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Most definitely!! It got to the point at the camp where some of our guys would message me to bring Raven before they even got out the stand after the shot. That was fine when I was training her but not now. I had to explain that she was only a last resort and not a full time tracking dog. They now do their own tracking. Fortunately we haven’t needed the last 2 seasons. Blood trailing for me big fun for me.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: BigEd]
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01/14/24 02:45 PM
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jwalker77
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A lot of folks seem to get in to much of a hurry to be good trackers. Some are just to dumb and really shouldn't be hunting. IMO I was in too big a hurry the other night trying to find Josephs deer. I knew i was too. I was walking trails instead of looking for blood. I was fairly certain it would be laying not far in the woods. There were factors i was unaware of. Joseph found blood and followed it. He did the better job tracking. My uncle and i followed blood once, several years ago, for about three miles, i guess. Started out pouring, then ended up a drop at a time every 50ft or so, then nothing. My uncle was a pretty good tracker and i learned alot from him that day. He was very patient and thorough. Josephs deer last week crossed a river and a big creek and bled very little after that. It had been run by yard dogs. We would never have found it without a dog. There is a need for a dog. Poor tracking skills by the average hunter is the cause of the need most of the time.
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: jwalker77]
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01/14/24 03:00 PM
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[ There is a need for a dog. Poor tracking skills by the average hunter is the cause of the need most of the time. No its not. The majority of the deer we recover with dogs would have never been found by ANY hunter.
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: CNC]
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01/14/24 03:05 PM
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jwalker77
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[ There is a need for a dog. Poor tracking skills by the average hunter is the cause of the need most of the time. No its not. The majority of the deer we recover with dogs would have never been found by ANY hunter. Then you have the deer thats 50-100yds in the woods, right? Are you saying you believe the average hunter youve seen has good tracking skills?
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/14/24 03:13 PM
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quailman
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Never used a dog. I can still do a good job tracking. Lot's of little things I've learned over the years.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: jwalker77]
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01/14/24 03:22 PM
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[ There is a need for a dog. Poor tracking skills by the average hunter is the cause of the need most of the time. No its not. The majority of the deer we recover with dogs would have never been found by ANY hunter. Then you have the deer thats 50-100yds in the woods, right? Are you saying you believe the average hunter youve seen has good tracking skills? There are very, very few deer that we recover less than 300 yards……Most people do not have great tracking skills but it wouldn’t matter for most of the ones we track. No hunter is tracking one 1,000 yards without finding blood past the 100 yard mark…..my dog can though. This conversation gets turned into something its not. There’s a lot of misconceptions being made about tracking dogs by folks looking from the outside in.
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: marshmud991]
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01/14/24 03:24 PM
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Most definitely!! It got to the point at the camp where some of our guys would message me to bring Raven before they even got out the stand after the shot. That was fine when I was training her but not now. I had to explain that she was only a last resort and not a full time tracking dog. They now do their own tracking. Fortunately we haven’t needed the last 2 seasons. Blood trailing for me big fun for me. Y'all do what you want but that makes no sense to me.....If you want an experienced dog that can find one that actually needs finding then its best to get them as much experience as possible.....Who cares about the male pride aspect of it
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/14/24 03:27 PM
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I would say it is becoming a lost art. I am exceptionally poor at tracking a deer (being color blind in red, green, and brown makes it very difficult - I see the color, but struggle with shades). I suppose that some people have the eyes, patience, and/or a knack/skill for it - I struggle with all of the above.
My son however is by far the best I have ever witnessed and by the accounts of others who have watched him - next to a dog, if the deer can be found - he'll find it.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
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Re: Is tracking deer becoming a lost art?
[Re: Chiller]
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01/14/24 04:00 PM
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Dogs are definitely a huge asset but shouldnt be called unless needed. Why not?.....Dogs are a tool like any other you’re carrying…..It’s like saying that flashlights are nice but should only be used as a last resort….. How about y’all don’t pour that corn pile out or hang that camera unless you cant kill one any other way….. I’ll never track another deer in my life that I shoot as long as I have a dog…..Why would I??.....To prove something to the rest of the world that doesn’t matter??.....Does it make sense to have 4-5 hunters tromp around the woods for 2-3 hrs looking for something a dog could find in 10 mintues??
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