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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: IDOT] #4064573
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Originally Posted by IDOT
We are witnessing the death of College Football like we used to know it. When the dust settles, the schools with the most $$$ will come out on top.

Not all big schools are paying the BIG money. They should have capped NIL. The dummies are paying more than the NFL minimum...

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: jawbone] #4064578
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Originally Posted by jawbone
This is something I've been told by some people that would know, but bammer is losing all these people because they just simply don't have the NIL funds available to use that some of these other schools do. FSU must be flush with NIL money.

This was not a trolling post. It is a serious post.


Pissed off FSU fans and a smart person are making them bank for NIL. Here's the link to a website to see how ANY FAN can donate...

FSU: The Battles End

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: kodiak06] #4064585
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by IDOT
We are witnessing the death of College Football like we used to know it. When the dust settles, the schools with the most $$$ will come out on top.

Not all big schools are paying the BIG money. They should have capped NIL. The dummies are paying more than the NFL minimum...

Technically; the schools are not paying the NIL contracts. All outside sources/collectives which no one has control over; so there is no way to cap it under the current environment.

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Originally Posted by IDOT
We are witnessing the death of College Football like we used to know it. When the dust settles, the schools with the most $$$ will come out on top.


Yep. Glad I got to see CFB back when it was worth a damn.


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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: IDOT] #4064631
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Originally Posted by IDOT
We are witnessing the death of College Football like we used to know it. When the dust settles, the schools with the most $$$ will come out on top.


It doesn't seem to be working for Texas A&M.

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064690
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I think the next step the NCAA does is figure out a way to cap it and spread the money around a little bit.

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064698
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
I think the next step the NCAA does is figure out a way to cap it and spread the money around a little bit.

And pocket “their” share

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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064716
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
I think the next step the NCAA does is figure out a way to cap it and spread the money around a little bit.

They have no control of it; they are private contracts. The courts have deemed you can't limit an individuals ability to profit of their own NIL.
Now if the players become employees ??

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064718
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NCAA is like our government. Created a monster and still wants control.


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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: kodiak06] #4064749
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Pissed off FSU fans and a smart person are making them bank for NIL. Here's the link to a website to see how ANY FAN can donate...

FSU: The Battles End[/quote]

Anyone can donate to any collective: https://www.yea-alabama.com/

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064765
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I didn’t realize Alabama had that in place. I knew Auburn did, they actively solicit donations. I guess Alabama is behind the 8 ball when it comes to NIL. They have relied on the Saban factor and now will have to catch up. It won’t take long. Don’t kid yourself, Alabama and Auburn both have heavy hitter money alumni


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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064779
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Don't blame the NCAA for the NIL. They fought it and the courts ruled against them. Blame the courts, but then who is to say that a kid can't make money on his own talent? Somewhere there is a happy medium and I'm sure people a lot smarter than me are working on it.

My solution would be something like allowing the schools to pay players but have a cap. No NIL. If you want to go the NIL route then you won't be part of the NCAA. Allow a minor league NFL system for the kids that want to go that way instead of school.

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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: wew3006] #4064782
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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by Pwyse
I think the next step the NCAA does is figure out a way to cap it and spread the money around a little bit.

They have no control of it; they are private contracts. The courts have deemed you can't limit an individuals ability to profit of their own NIL.
Now if the players become employees ??


I think they will figure out a way. I have no clue what that way is.

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BTW…..FSU just got hit with 2 year probation because of NIL misconduct. They are the first to run afoul of NCAA NIL law


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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Irishguy] #4064787
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by IDOT
We are witnessing the death of College Football like we used to know it. When the dust settles, the schools with the most $$$ will come out on top.


It doesn't seem to be working for Texas A&M.


Give it time, I'm sure they'll figure it out. Then again, who the hell wants to go to a school with all male cheerleaders.


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Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064807
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People got to understand these players don't have a nil without the school. Whose paying a $500k for running back at troy. It's because of the fans at these schools that they get to be big time. It's horse crap that it has anything to do with the players. And I can prove it. Bama looks like the Mexican border with players leaving. Is any bammer becoming a texas am fan because the bammer went there. How many bammers are gonna donate to fsu because they just stole half your team.....the answer zero. The school does have some right to make money of these players, because without the school they are nothing!!! And this ain't a shot at the row tiders it's all big time schools

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Originally Posted by jawbone

My solution would be something like allowing the schools to pay players but have a cap. No NIL. If you want to go the NIL route then you won't be part of the NCAA. Allow a minor league NFL system for the kids that want to go that way instead of school.


This makes sense to me. Every school gets up to $X. In order to really allow parity, let a collective be run through the schools to make up any deficits for schools that cannot afford that $X figure. I also think every athlete should get something, so set a minimum. Not just football, but all sports. Let the schools decide what sport they want to be good at… and how exactly they want to distribute.

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Originally Posted by Showout
Pissed off FSU fans and a smart person are making them bank for NIL. Here's the link to a website to see how ANY FAN can donate...

FSU: The Battles End


Anyone can donate to any collective: https://www.yea-alabama.com/
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The difference is their fans knew about know about it…

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Happysappy] #4064827
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Originally Posted by Happysappy
I didn’t realize Alabama had that in place. I knew Auburn did, they actively solicit donations. I guess Alabama is behind the 8 ball when it comes to NIL. They have relied on the Saban factor and now will have to catch up. It won’t take long. Don’t kid yourself, Alabama and Auburn both have heavy hitter money alumni


Not behind; at all

https://rolltide.com/news/2023/9/22/alabama-athletics-and-learfield-open-the-advantage-center.aspx

Re: Caleb Downs in the Portal [Re: Pwyse] #4064831
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by Pwyse
I think the next step the NCAA does is figure out a way to cap it and spread the money around a little bit.

They have no control of it; they are private contracts. The courts have deemed you can't limit an individuals ability to profit of their own NIL.
Now if the players become employees ??


I think they will figure out a way. I have no clue what that way is.


The NCAA is dead man walking in major college football; they don't even have anything to do with playoffs or bowls. They only big money source is the basketball tournament contract

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