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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: Teacher One]
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01/23/24 10:56 AM
01/23/24 10:56 AM
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I fully disagree with the early bow season opener we have now. The deer here in North Alabama still rely on momma to survive and many does are shot and the fawns are left on their own. I would be all for moving bow season forward to November 1. I agree about the fawns but bow season is not really even significant from a numbers standpoint…….We only kill about 5,000-6,000 does across the whole state during bow season….That’s like 75 does per county…..I think the Oct 25 delay is probably sufficient to address that situation…..If we really want to protect fawn numbers then we need to be more concerned about the other 90,000 does that get killed during the rest of the season.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 11:09 AM
01/23/24 11:09 AM
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Jan 31st close for Zone A is kind of obvious imo. Should have never been extended. I’ve orphaned a lot of fawns in my time and they make it just fine. Mandating a “break” in the season is just silly. It’s amazing how many big bucks I get on camera the week leading up to bow season and the first week after it starts, then they change. I think our bow season start date is just right. If they opened it one week earlier I could kill a lot more big bucks though. 😃
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: RandanAL]
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01/23/24 11:18 AM
01/23/24 11:18 AM
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Why not just have tags? I'd rather kill 1 buck a year + 1 either sex and be able to hunt more to select those deer than feel like I have to go out and kill something on a particular day.
Because you would still have arseholes who will break the law. There is a dude north of us that has killed 16 this year (that we know of) including 5 nice bucks. He is also selling meat. Yes the game wardens know about him are are trying to catch him. Fella is worthless. Kills whatever comes into his little 40 acres. I under stand someone killing a small deer if they were hungry but when you start selling them you need to have the book thrown at you.
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: globe]
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01/23/24 11:20 AM
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Jan 31st close for Zone A is kind of obvious imo. Should have never been extended. Mandating a “break” in the season is just silly.
It’s not really in there to serve as a “break”……It’s the fact that if you’re gonna take 10 days back from Zone A at the end of the season then you need to take 10 days back from Zone B to even things up. You’re not gonna take it from the end of the season during the rut so Dec is the best dates to do it……The same with Zones D & E if you want to end gun season on Jan 16 because of bucks already shedding…………Its just evening out the number of gun and bow days to be the same for everyone. I think as far as total gun days that its basically just taking back the 10 that was added on with the Feb extension plus 4 more which made things work out a little better…..If you wanted to make it exactly the same as it used to be you could add four gun days back to each zone….. I'm pretty sure there was a few gun days added to Nov in there
Last edited by CNC; 01/23/24 11:33 AM.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 11:54 AM
01/23/24 11:54 AM
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Don't change anything yall won't be happy if it was changed anyway
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: Backwards cowboy]
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01/23/24 11:55 AM
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What does any of this have to do with corn? The other thread you said the season lengths had nothing to do with the deer population it was all corn. Now here your changing hunting seasons to fix it. Have a change of heart? No…..I said in the other one that I had “no illusions that corn was going to go away due to it being so much of a money maker yada yada yada”……and that there would have to be other ways of addressing the issues if we were going to continue to do it….. I wonder how much y’all actually pay attention sometimes……
We dont rent pigs
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 01:01 PM
01/23/24 01:01 PM
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One thing is for sure, big changes to the season dates or weapon choice would cause a revolt. Hunters in Alabama like the long season and rifle hunting is our culture. I think folks would be more likely to support a reduction in limit vs changing the season dates or limiting rifle hunting days.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 01:25 PM
01/23/24 01:25 PM
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If you dont like the Feb extension in north Alabama then you have to take back those 10 days......there's not much way around that. Making gun opener on the second Saturday of Nov would compensate. More in some years than others....It would mean a Nov 9th opener next year
Last edited by CNC; 01/23/24 01:28 PM.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 03:21 PM
01/23/24 03:21 PM
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I had the opportunity to climb a tree this year in Illinois and Kentucky. There is no way we will ever have the mature deer these states have under the current seasons we have now. I have not killed a deer in Alabama this year because I usually only kill one a year-my choice-and I killed him in another state this year. I personally like the breaks in the season the other states have as it gives me a chance to recharge my batteries and rest a bit before going at them again. If you have never sat in a tree in Illinois, you have no clue as to how big a deer can grow.
The buck numbers in other states are unreal when they can survive for several seasons. The rifle restrictions and the 1 buck tag limit saves many a young deer. I was at a processor this year in Kentucky and saw several folks bring in small bucks that I would have never even considered shooting. The Good Lord has Blessed me in allowing me the opportunity to own land and control it the way I want to. I am very strict on what will be shot there and when it will be shot. I make my own rules there on these tracts and have no control when the critters roam off me onto someone else. I am not into a numbers game of saying I killed three bucks this year. To me if I have to brag on killing 3 bucks a year, there are other issues I would need to address.
Just my $0.02
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: dawgdr]
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01/23/24 03:38 PM
01/23/24 03:38 PM
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No herd can possibly improve under an almost 4 month season, 3 buck limit and legalized corn. Stupid is as stupid does. Been preaching this for years around here. Amen.
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: Mbrock]
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01/23/24 03:42 PM
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All y’all proposing no bow season can hush. 😂 lol
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: dawgdr]
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01/23/24 03:42 PM
01/23/24 03:42 PM
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No herd can possibly improve under an almost 4 month season, 3 buck limit and legalized corn. Stupid is as stupid does. X2
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: CNC]
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01/23/24 03:51 PM
01/23/24 03:51 PM
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One of the worst things about our situation in my opinion is that we have no ability to adapt……You have some folks who think we should be able to just “set it and forget it” for the next 100 years……Not having a system that can adapt to change is just dumb.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: New Season Dates Revisited
[Re: hawndog]
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01/23/24 03:52 PM
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One season. No bow season, muzzle loader season, youth season, dog season, stalk season. One start date, one end date, kill them how you like. Amen. Nov 10- Feb 10
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