And no matter what we do we will never rival those premier deer hunting states. It just won’t happen. Even our resident expert CNC will tell you that

Sigh.... It's genetics it's got nothing to do with culture. You can limit buck harvest all you want but we don't have the genetics to grow northern deer in mass here period. We get the occasional 150s and up but it's management on the property that gets those. Most here that want restrictions on deer season hunt shat property that can't hold a healthy heard anyway. You say it's the doe killing that's reduced your numbers I'd be looking at agriculture in your area as the real reason your deer numbers might be down how bout predators? None of yall mention that or hogs running your deer off. I know some deer killing fools none of them are killing enough to damage the heard no single person is killing a deer a day. I'll even give you doe days cut them back it's not gonna change shat but whatever. Outlaws... Say some assholes are killing a shat ton of deer at night, 3-4 a day you need to blame that on your green jeans not the seasons. Like I always say don't like it find another state that has seasons you like and stop hunting Alabama still havent seen anybody say they have stopped hunting in Bama because the season is better in a different state. This season change shat is a yearly troll by CNC and yall fools fall or it year after year

Right but bow hunting is more intrusive meaning you spook more deer as you have to get closer to more deer. I can hunt literally everyday of gun season and deer never know I am anywhere around if I do it right. To bow hunt successfully you have to get so close you can't help but alert deer to your presence on occasion imo. Bow hunting is more intrusive not more lethal. Everyone can kill a deer with a bow or crossbow now days

I think our potential is sold way short……However, nothing that has been said has been about trying to grow trophy midwest deer……Its been about rule changes that have created piss poor herd dynamics, an over harvesting of bucks, and minimal populations across big swaths of the state. Expectations seem to be kept low in our state…..Dont expect much and you wont be disappointed seems to be our creed.......Just sayin, we definitely have plenty room for improvement......

Let me ask y'all a question......What if the state sold night hunting permits for $100 each and allowed folks to night hunt?.....Would you have a problem with the impact that had on the deer population??

Me thinks you put us folks that grew up hunting public land on your land we will kill deer better than you!!!!
We ain't stingy we remember when deer Hunting Was tough on public land.alot of deer on public land now
Dont let some of us show up on your high dollar property.we can actually hunt deer not in shooting houses.like them old Indians did
Lol but seriously y'all argue but there's still old school meat hunters in a lot of our blood.we ain't trying to be special or show we got money to kill something
Getting silly

And no bow hunters aren't putting more pressure.very few guys bow hunt
I'm normally only fella bow hunting regularly in last 3-4 hunting clubs

ever bow hunter i know has standards for killing with a bow and gun . what they kill with a bow theyll let pass with a gun ,,,,, some times . lol

hell some here would pay a $1,000

We'll pay to hunt the yuppies on here's property
$100 pretty easy.hell we might just take it over all together
We got messicans coming in might as well start taking over whatever I want

How can a rule that changes a buck a day everyday of the season to 3 buck per season with one having at least 4pts on one side for most of the state create over harvesting of bucks? You really think the there is that many more bucks being killed now then when every buck with visible antlers were being killed? I’m not following what you’re wanting.

You may not be talking about growing Midwest deer. But most that will follow your flawed logic believe that if we limit this and limit that it will end up being the Midwest. People don’t believe in northern genetics vs southern genetics and vast agricultural property that help these deer grow big. Leave our season alone. You talk about all these changes but dance around why you propose these changes. It’s corn. Corn is why you are even talking about all this.

I find it strange that deer hunting was much better in this state back when we could kill a buck a day and only had doe days around Christmas. So maybe I’m wrong a little. The problem we have in this state is the slaughter of does and corn. But they go hand in hand IMO

You have a choice:
A. Pull the trigger
B. Don't pull the trigger.

Corn does not force you to choose A. People choose B consistently in other baiting states. Why can't they here?

Answer: If you don't kill them, your neighbors will.

Corn just makes it easier and brings more deer to pull the trigger on.

Exactly…….and when those extra 100K deer get killed as a result of the night hunting permits are we gonna blame it all on the hunters and lack of self-restraint or does the state also carry some of that burden for selling them the ability to do so??

My point is that those extra 100K deer we killed are just as dead whether that permit that was sold says baiting or night hunting on it. If it were to have been night hunting people would be pitching a fit about it…… but because its baiting we don’t even acknowledge its had an impact and even if we do the blame is going to the hunters while the state plays innocent. There should be changes made to compensate for the impact that baiting is causing.

I am still looking for that magic corn pile yall speak of. My five year old daylight once all year over a pile. But i caught him in roads 3 times n daylight where there no bait

I use to spot light without gun lot in high school amd college. A 6 year old can consistently shoot big deer if somebody holds a spot light

CNC ,,,, some times people just gotta learn the hard way .

Me ,,,,

Id fire ever body , Chuck and his buddies need to go

Id stop all supplement feeding during season

I'd stop the February season

I'd change does days up .where needed .

In a few years with CWD they gonna stop feeding any way .. might as well stop it now .

I’m still amazed that Texas hasn’t run out of deer yet!! You know if corn is depleted the deer population in Alabama. Heck even with kill em all mentality in Louisiana,we still have a large population of deer and corn has been legal for as long as I can remember.

Naw Ben. Us rifle hunters are sloppy and don’t really hunt the deer.

We were a park and walk club and one of the best things we did was to close early bow season and shut the whole club down for 2 weeks before opening day of rifle. No more stinking up the woods for a month before opening day.

Texas doesn’t allow the slaughter of does like we do in this state. We allow you to corn all you want and sit at that feeder and shoot a doe every day you sit at the feeder. My complaint in all of this is leave the season dates alone. If there is any changes that need to be made it is do away with corn or have doe days implemented again in the areas that are suffering with deer numbers.

Had to edit to add that even your kill em all Louisiana has limits on the amount of does you can kill. We don’t. Corn has helped aid in every swinging d### putting on camo and sitting at a feeder. So now we are where we are.