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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4072504
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Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’d be good going back to closing it on Jan. 31st even though my 2 best bucks in the last 20+ years have come on Feb 1st and 3rd respectively. I still feel weird about deer hunting in February. Kinda like turkey hunting in May. But I’m gonna go if I can!



Here,around the house that's when they really start to get hot . Always been that way

Though some bred in Dec/Jan

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4072506
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Yea - where we at sometime dont chase hard till very end jan


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: eskimo270] #4072565
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Originally Posted by eskimo270
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Harold, have you ever taken your research and studies to a CAB meeting to discuss it with the board members? If not you should and let us know which one you are going to.


https://www.outdooralabama.com/about-us/conservation-advisory-board


I've never been to a CAB meeting......I'm a little skeptical about how seriously they actually take the speakers.....I always figured it was basically just a way to appease the public and make them feel like they have a voice.....I'd be real surprised if it actually influenced decisions.

Thank you for your comments, they have been noted. Next we have have Joe from cullman who wishes to talk on the positive biological effects of dog hunting.


Yep.....


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4072575
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by eskimo270
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Harold, have you ever taken your research and studies to a CAB meeting to discuss it with the board members? If not you should and let us know which one you are going to.


https://www.outdooralabama.com/about-us/conservation-advisory-board


I've never been to a CAB meeting......I'm a little skeptical about how seriously they actually take the speakers.....I always figured it was basically just a way to appease the public and make them feel like they have a voice.....I'd be real surprised if it actually influenced decisions.

Thank you for your comments, they have been noted. Next we have have Joe from cullman who wishes to talk on the positive biological effects of dog hunting.


Yep.....


Go to a CAB meeting , state your case if all this is that important to you.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: 2Dogs] #4072686
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs


Go to a CAB meeting , state your case if all this is that important to you.


Thanks for your comments.....they have been noted. smile


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: cartervj] #4072695
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Don’t forget last years lack of acorns and food in general.


Why do you think the southeast corner of the state is shooting more does this year than any other year in the last four??.....Its not just random or coincidence……that’s a very obvious pattern occurring……There’s an underlying reason…..What is it??


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4072735
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He trolls this site every year with his "ideas" never does shat but troll this forum and make people believe his drivel.....


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: 1bamashooter] #4072761
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
He trolls this site every year with his "ideas" never does shat but troll this forum and make people believe his drivel.....


Had to google drivel thumbup



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: 2Dogs] #4072771
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
He trolls this site every year with his "ideas" never does shat but troll this forum and make people believe his drivel.....


Had to google drivel thumbup

I though most of us older folks knew what drivel was😂 for those that don't know drivel mean NONSENSE.


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: 1bamashooter] #4072851
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
He trolls this site every year with his "ideas" never does shat but troll this forum and make people believe his drivel.....


Had to google drivel thumbup

I though most of us older folks knew what drivel was😂 for those that don't know drivel mean NONSENSE.


I'm sure I learned it in HS English , but that's been been bout 50 years ago. I just use BS. laugh



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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4072854
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by 2Dogs


Go to a CAB meeting , state your case if all this is that important to you.


Thanks for your comments.....they have been noted. smile


Why not go to a cab meeting? Or write letters/ emails to Cab members? You are a smart guy who is passionate about the well being of our states wildlife. I’d like to have you arguing on our behalf. I emailed everyone of the CAB members about turkey season changes and heard back from several of them. I figure that if they hear from enough of us maybe it will make a difference.
It’s fun to debate things on aldeer but it will never lead to any kind of change.



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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4072858
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Southwood7 i bet they got a spy or two that visit

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Frankie] #4073080
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Southwood7 i bet they got a spy or two that visit


I think so too......


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073087
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I’ve got a theory about those southeastern counties …….I don’t think its big plantation X…..or big hunting club Y…….or landowner Z changing their doe harvest patterns in the southeastern portion of the state that has caused the 4 year increase in doe harvest numbers that we see peaking this year (assuming this is where it peaks)…..I think the increase is coming from more and more of the smaller properties around them being utilized to take advantage of the good populations….. I bet most of the big players are shooting the same as they have been.

I know that there’s always been folks hunting around the big plantations and such but now anyone who can put up a feeder in his uncles back yard can have an impact. There’s just FAR more of these small properties now with the ability to kill more deer than they could in the past. The increase is coming from these folks skimming more of the cream off the top as more properties are utilized to pour out a bait pile. I think the cream has already been skimmed off of North Alabama and why you see the decline this year. The southeastern part may just be a year of so behind in declining due to there being better populations. I think the southwestern portion may be a little less impacted because its so much more rural with less small property fragmentation…. It would blow everyone’s mind if you could see the true scale of baiting that’s occurring……The more the land is divided up into smaller properties, the higher the feeder/corn pile density.

Frankie is right……Sometimes folks gotta learn the hard way. I’m guessing its gonna be another “weird year” next season again for a lot of folks.


Last edited by CNC; 01/29/24 12:05 PM.

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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073088
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by eskimo270
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Harold, have you ever taken your research and studies to a CAB meeting to discuss it with the board members? If not you should and let us know which one you are going to.


https://www.outdooralabama.com/about-us/conservation-advisory-board


I've never been to a CAB meeting......I'm a little skeptical about how seriously they actually take the speakers.....I always figured it was basically just a way to appease the public and make them feel like they have a voice.....I'd be real surprised if it actually influenced decisions.

Thank you for your comments, they have been noted. Next we have have Joe from cullman who wishes to talk on the positive biological effects of dog hunting.


Yep.....



Not true. I've been to several of them.


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073093
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How in the heck do y'all think I'm gonna be able to explain all of this in 3 minutes??? laugh


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Southwood7] #4073095
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Originally Posted by Southwood7
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by 2Dogs


Go to a CAB meeting , state your case if all this is that important to you.


Thanks for your comments.....they have been noted. smile


Why not go to a cab meeting? Or write letters/ emails to Cab members? You are a smart guy who is passionate about the well being of our states wildlife. I’d like to have you arguing on our behalf. I emailed everyone of the CAB members about turkey season changes and heard back from several of them. I figure that if they hear from enough of us maybe it will make a difference.
It’s fun to debate things on aldeer but it will never lead to any kind of change.


Neither will talking to the CAB members, unless it somehow involves fleecing hunters, money for the state, or something that benefits the individual members themselves. All this corn crap started with the "its okay in hunting season if it's 100 yards and out of sight" rule, which coincidentally involved benefiting a couple very specific guys with high fence, pay to shoot operations that pushed it through. Who'd a thunk it????

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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073099
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Originally Posted by CNC
It would blow everyone’s mind if you could see the true scale of baiting that’s occurring……The more the land is divided up into smaller properties, the higher the feeder/corn pile density.
Do you think people would be all that surprised? Corn is the easiest and cheapest way to see deer consistently hands down.

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Originally Posted by CNC
A year later I still say we should adjust the season dates to the following.
Any reason to reduce the season rather than moving to physical tags and tighter bag limits with stiff fines that isn't "people are just going to break the law and keep killing deer". I think if the state came out and publicly said "hey we're killing too many does and it's hurting the herd, we need to put bag limits in" very very few people would exceed their limit.

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