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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4084141
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Wouldnt it be funny if next year, everyone in the state game checks a doe every day of the season starting in bow season? Just to screw with CNC's graphs!


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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BhamFred] #4084231
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
if I remember correctly Al has slots for 130 or so GWs, two per county except a couple counties have three, NOT 60. I don't know how many slots are currently filled, and how many vacancies.

I personally made a LOT of night hunting and daytime road hunting arrests with decoys....until the state decided to seize our decoys that were privately donated and make em state property. I got rid of mine and quit using decoys.

Troy, that’s why I said 60 at any given time. No way they can work/patrol 24/7. I was referring to 60-65, on patrol, and that’s only if every one of those 130 wardens is working 84 hrs per week. I know they work a bunch of O/T at times but we all know they aren’t working double the hours the state is paying them for. I actually think that the 60 number that I used is actually high, for the actual numbers of wardens on the road or in the woods, at any given hour, on any given day.

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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BhamFred] #4084238
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
if I remember correctly Al has slots for 130 or so GWs, two per county except a couple counties have three, NOT 60. I don't know how many slots are currently filled, and how many vacancies.


That's right bout , 130. But there are open slots. Here's the problem I've always had with them . Some counties one is plenty. Some like Jackson could keep 4 busy. Our guys will have more calls / contacts in one day than some GWs in other counties do all week. We are a large county , some areas are very remote , we have the game , ducks and fishing . A lot of hunters from area counties are here hunting and fishing , not in there home county. We get em from TN and GA too.



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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: treemydog] #4084252
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Originally Posted by treemydog
Wouldnt it be funny if next year, everyone in the state game checks a doe every day of the season starting in bow season? Just to screw with CNC's graphs!


Only problem is they would do something wacky with the seasons. They would overcorrect , and then we'd all be mad about that instead.

Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BPI] #4084648
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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by treemydog
Wouldnt it be funny if next year, everyone in the state game checks a doe every day of the season starting in bow season? Just to screw with CNC's graphs!


Only problem is they would do something wacky with the seasons. They would overcorrect , and then we'd all be mad about that instead.

Overcorrect how? They could say that since we able to kill so many, the population must be higher than we thought and open the season wide open. Or. They could go the other direction and say we are killing too many and need to shut it down.
And this is the problem with counting dead deer.

Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4084694
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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: hawndog] #4084696
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Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by treemydog
Wouldnt it be funny if next year, everyone in the state game checks a doe every day of the season starting in bow season? Just to screw with CNC's graphs!


Only problem is they would do something wacky with the seasons. They would overcorrect , and then we'd all be mad about that instead.

Overcorrect how? They could say that since we able to kill so many, the population must be higher than we thought and open the season wide open. Or. They could go the other direction and say we are killing too many and need to shut it down.
And this is the problem with counting dead deer.


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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Mbrock] #4085018
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by JMNeal
If I recall, the past few years' total harvests have been close to or at 300,000. Was there really a 100,000 drop in harvests this year or is there missing data?

The GC harvest totals have been at or below 200k. The annual hunter harvest survey indicates 300k, which I feel is more accurate.

Question regarding the annual hunter survey. I just read the report for the 2022-23 season. It looks as if they surveyed 3200 hunters out of an estimated 305,000. That’s roughly 1.05%. Does the state feel like a survey of 1% or hunters is likely more correct than the game check that is in place? I may have read the report wrong and am not a statistics man, but 1% feels like a low number

Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4085036
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I don’t know this to be the case but here’s my guess…….Part of doing a sampling equation is knowing how many you need to sample in order to get an accurate measurement. That amount depends on how much the population varies from one individual to the next…..There’s calculations for determining this stuff……My guess is that whoever did the survey understands statistics and surveyed the amount of people that the equation told them needed sampling. I imagine they had a good idea of how many surveys they needed to mail out to get the number they wanted back. Again that’s just a guess though….

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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4085271
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Easy Answer is without the "tracking tales" crew to help, these poor marksman are taking a few days to find the backslapped/leg shot/shot back in the guts deer they were sure they hammered. Chucky will patiently wait for their compliance.


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Someone shoots a deer or three and freezes them. End of season they take frozen meat to processor. Processor says I need your gamecheck number. Someone logs it in.

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why do processors need a game check number....ain't their job to police for the state.


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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BhamFred] #4085429
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
why do processors need a game check number....ain't their job to police for the state.

Price of doing business. Probably get audited one day.


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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4085436
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Dept of Conservation has no authority over processors, no permit required by them.

Local processor had a GW come by to check their books, they told him to pound sand and GTFO. He left. Then sat a block away to check folks coming to the processor so they called Montgomery and bitched. He moved.


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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BhamFred] #4085437
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
why do processors need a game check number....ain't their job to police for the state.



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Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: hawndog] #4085492
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Originally Posted by hawndog
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Originally Posted by treemydog
Wouldnt it be funny if next year, everyone in the state game checks a doe every day of the season starting in bow season? Just to screw with CNC's graphs!


Only problem is they would do something wacky with the seasons. They would overcorrect , and then we'd all be mad about that instead.

Overcorrect how? They could say that since we able to kill so many, the population must be higher than we thought and open the season wide open. Or. They could go the other direction and say we are killing too many and need to shut it down.
And this is the problem with counting dead deer.

Exactly

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23 more Game Checked today.

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Just proves the point of almost zero enforcement of any game laws in Alabama. Rule is 48 hrs after the kill. Today marks day 7 after the close of the season. Anyone checking a deer after midnight Monday night should be found and ticketed. There’s Dumb As in this state that probably think the season runs til the 15th of Feb or maybe even the end. Lax enforcement of our regs doesn’t even begin to describe how AL treats game laws, compared to other states.

Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: BhamFred] #4085643
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Dept of Conservation has no authority over processors, no permit required by them.

Local processor had a GW come by to check their books, they told him to pound sand and GTFO. He left. Then sat a block away to check folks coming to the processor so they called Montgomery and bitched. He moved.


Here’s my question, in other states that use tags, it’s affixed to the deer and processors record the tag, correct? If so what’s the difference with processors not accepting deer with out a GC #.

I like the idea of processor telling them to pound sound another question do you know if they record GC #’s or are they just playing hard ball with GW’s?

Re: Game Check Numbers today... [Re: Cuz-Pat] #4085669
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the processor I'm referring didn't check numbers, said it wasn't their job.


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