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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
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02/19/24 02:50 PM
02/19/24 02:50 PM
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gundoc
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I have bought from SWFA when they had the used scope site samplelist but its no longer. Is there another source for used/demo scopes? scopelist.com
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: bill]
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02/20/24 11:15 AM
02/20/24 11:15 AM
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jmudler
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You can find a Trijicon Accupoint in that price range. I don't think you can do better under 1k. This. I own over 20 Vortex products from Diamondback to Razors. Trijicon optics are just flat out impressive, and usually 20-30% more Budget - it is pretty hard to beat a $250-300 (on sale) Vortex Viper. Midway was blowing out old Viper 3x9x40 1" tubes for $200 during Christmas time. Europtic has a sale right now on Vortex with an additional 15% off and free shipping over $250.
Last edited by jmudler; 02/20/24 04:22 PM.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: UncleHuck]
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02/20/24 02:45 PM
02/20/24 02:45 PM
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Satsuma, AL
Robert D.
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Watch the used Zeiss scopes. Some are chinese counterfeits.
I thought the Chinese Leupolds were the common problem.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Robert D.]
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02/20/24 04:52 PM
02/20/24 04:52 PM
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gundoc
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Watch the used Zeiss scopes. Some are chinese counterfeits.
I thought the Chinese Leupolds were the common problem. They are, or at least were. They've (Leupold) been working hard to get the fakes off the market. eBay is full of fake Zeiss scopes though. Or was last time I checked.
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Barton]
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02/20/24 08:56 PM
02/20/24 08:56 PM
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BamaBoHunter
OP
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Hands down, Meopta Optika5 3-15X44 Z-Plus reticle. Well under $500 when you can find one. They sell out as soon as they arrive. Pm to you
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Jason Carroll]
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02/24/24 04:59 PM
02/24/24 04:59 PM
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Mississippi
riflenut
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10 point
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Diamondback hp fogged up on me this year on a buck. To hell with a vortex...
Internally or externally?
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
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02/25/24 05:33 PM
02/25/24 05:33 PM
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Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... I am not a Vortex fan. I have owned one of their products and will never spend a dime of my money on another. The scope that I owned was not clear to my eyes, wasn't very good in low light, and to me, it was cheaply built. My biggest beef with Vortex as a company? They are a pretender, a "want to be", in the optics industry. They want to be in the league with other higher end scope manufacturers, but the cold, hard fact is they don't manufacture most their products. As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter. The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them. Razor - Made in Japan Viper - Made in the Philippines Diamondback - Made in the Philippines Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China Diamondback Tactical - Made in China Strike Eagle - Made in China Crossfire - Made in China You guys wonder why so many problems occur with many of their scope models? Just look where many of them are being built. This is a company that has built their reputation on their warranty. It's a good thing they have the warranty policy that they have. Sooner or later their junk will fail. Yep, in my opinion, they are the little brother in the optics industry. Kinda like Aubarn is to Bama...  They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities.  Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. 
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts
Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy
Since 1998
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/25/24 07:24 PM
02/25/24 07:24 PM
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North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... I am not a Vortex fan. I have owned one of their products and will never spend a dime of my money on another. The scope that I owned was not clear to my eyes, wasn't very good in low light, and to me, it was cheaply built. My biggest beef with Vortex as a company? They are a pretender, a "want to be", in the optics industry. They want to be in the league with other higher end scope manufacturers, but the cold, hard fact is they don't manufacture most their products. As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter. The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them. Razor - Made in Japan Viper - Made in the Philippines Diamondback - Made in the Philippines Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China Diamondback Tactical - Made in China Strike Eagle - Made in China Crossfire - Made in China You guys wonder why so many problems occur with many of their scope models? Just look where many of them are being built. This is a company that has built their reputation on their warranty. It's a good thing they have the warranty policy that they have. Sooner or later their junk will fail. Yep, in my opinion, they are the little brother in the optics industry. Kinda like Aubarn is to Bama... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Great post Cuz. One question I have NEVER asked when buying optics is "what is the warranty?'" The best warranty is one you never need to use.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: AU338MAG]
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02/25/24 07:31 PM
02/25/24 07:31 PM
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Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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Booner
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The best warranty is one you never need to use. Amen, brother! This man is right.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts
Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy
Since 1998
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/26/24 09:49 AM
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jmudler
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As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter.
The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them.
Razor - Made in Japan
Viper - Made in the Philippines
Diamondback - Made in the Philippines
Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China
Diamondback Tactical - Made in China
Strike Eagle - Made in China
Crossfire - Made in China
The XM157 is made in the US. Although it is $10k each.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/26/24 10:59 AM
02/26/24 10:59 AM
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GA
UncleHuck
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Zeiss doesn't make all their own stuff either. They have farmed out manufacture of several of their lower end scopes, but I believe all their high end stuff is made by them.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: UncleHuck]
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02/26/24 12:10 PM
02/26/24 12:10 PM
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Hoover
burbank
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Booner
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Hoover
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Zeiss doesn't make all their own stuff either. They have farmed out manufacture of several of their lower end scopes, but I believe all their high end stuff is made by them. Yep. Some Zeiss models are made by LOW in Japan. Trijicon and NF as well as many others use LOW. I have a friend with a high end razor (3k) and he has had to send it back twice. He is in the process of getting his money back.
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