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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4085929
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I went with the Eotech recently because it lacks reflection on colored glass. Housing seems a bit more robust than most. I haven’t mounted it yet, but that’s what I went with.

I have had several Burris and a Vortex. Only issue I’d say is make sure you get the right battery for the Burris ff3. Lots of folks had issues with battery cap flying off.

Swampfox is a good option from what I’ve seen.

Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4085931
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I cant find that tru glo mount…i swear the same one on their website was like $12 when i bought it..the same one today is $55..cant be right


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: CarbonClimber1] #4085938
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
I cant find that tru glo mount…i swear the same one on their website was like $12 when i bought it..the same one today is $55..cant be right


Biden inflation

Thanks for taking the time to look Carbon

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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4086008
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Don’t know if it was mentioned but a red dot versus a holographic red dot are different if I recall correctly the holo sight will hit no matter how you line it up gun wise as long as the holographic is on target. A red dot still depends on you mounting the gun the same way every time same as shooting a bead. Your cheek is the second sight. I could be wrong but that’s what I was told.

I have an old Burris speed bead that mounts on the stock bracket. I may reinstall that this year.

Yup getting old and eyesight changing is no fun. I used to have a pretty decent ability wing shooting. Yeah not so much these days. And lining up a bead even with my glasses on leaves a lot to be desired.

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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4086055
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I was dokn some readin…i dont know why more folks dont use Noblex sights..they are made in germany and very expensive…but according to the internet they are about as good as it gets..i never here folks talk about them..but they are apparently excellent quality
noblex


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: 7x57_Mauser] #4086721
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Originally Posted by 7x57_Mauser
I run a vortex venom. Learned the hard way to always carry an extra battery for them either in your vest or taped on the gun somewhere. On my SBE2 I can pop the recoil pad off pretty easily so I keep one in there, but I haven't figured out what I'll do with my 870 20ga.


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4086726
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I use a 3x9


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087294
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I have been anti red dot / halo for a long time. I hated how they looked on a gun, I always worried about battery/mechanical failure in the woods, and I just hated them in general. Last season I got my stuff out and was out in my field doing some shooting with dove loads and I just could not see the bead. It appears in my old age and declining eyesight that I just cannot focus on the bead and achieve adequate target acquisition. After several days of soul searching and hand wringing and envisioning crippled gobblers flying off I ordered a Swampfox Kingslayer with the green circle and cross hair and a meadowcreek mount. Best thing I ever did! I can see my target so much better and if I put that green circle on that turkeys head he's dead no questions asked. You know how on a bead you have to be down on that stock and looking down that vent rib flat? With that red dot if you make a mistake and don't get down on that vent rib but you put that circle on him....... dead. I still hate the way it looks but it's the cats meow for my eyes. Fellas....... I fought it as long as I could but it had to happen.

I do keep a little tool kit in my vest with an extra battery and some tools to remove it in the field if it ever fails.


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087416
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I made the switch last year and started shooting the vortex venom. I was bad about not staying down on the gun. I do not plan on turning back. I love it and I feel like it gives you a little wiggle room on awkward shots.

Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087481
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Make sure they are sighted in/still on is key. don't do like me and miss 4 turkeys in a week only to realize your red dot is 2.5 feet high at 20 yards. Stopped using one for a while then realized at 40 yards, my eyes are getting to where with a bead, it covers the entire turkey up. I made the switch back and back to loving it though I check my gun yearly at least/ if any bump to it etc.


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Gobble4me757] #4087516
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
Make sure they are sighted in/still on is key. don't do like me and miss 4 turkeys in a week only to realize your red dot is 2.5 feet high at 20 yards. Stopped using one for a while then realized at 40 yards, my eyes are getting to where with a bead, it covers the entire turkey up. I made the switch back and back to loving it though I check my gun yearly at least/ if any bump to it etc.


I carry field loads around and shoot campaign signs on the regular during season just to make sure

Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087520
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Thanks for all the info guys. I’m going to bite the bulket and get one mounted up as soon as I have time. Hopefully before the season.

Re: School me on red dots [Re: turkey247] #4087552
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
Make sure they are sighted in/still on is key. don't do like me and miss 4 turkeys in a week only to realize your red dot is 2.5 feet high at 20 yards. Stopped using one for a while then realized at 40 yards, my eyes are getting to where with a bead, it covers the entire turkey up. I made the switch back and back to loving it though I check my gun yearly at least/ if any bump to it etc.


I carry field loads around and shoot campaign signs on the regular during season just to make sure


I need to do this. Good tip thanks!


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087562
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HOLOSUN HE507K 2 MOA Dot & 32 MOA Circle. Makes finding the dot super easy. Will never buy another type.


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Gobble4me757] #4087575
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
Make sure they are sighted in/still on is key. don't do like me and miss 4 turkeys in a week only to realize your red dot is 2.5 feet high at 20 yards. Stopped using one for a while then realized at 40 yards, my eyes are getting to where with a bead, it covers the entire turkey up. I made the switch back and back to loving it though I check my gun yearly at least/ if any bump to it etc.

Can confirm, This Has bit me too



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Re: School me on red dots [Re: BC] #4087856
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Originally Posted by BC
I have been anti red dot / halo for a long time. I hated how they looked on a gun, I always worried about battery/mechanical failure in the woods, and I just hated them in general. Last season I got my stuff out and was out in my field doing some shooting with dove loads and I just could not see the bead. It appears in my old age and declining eyesight that I just cannot focus on the bead and achieve adequate target acquisition. After several days of soul searching and hand wringing and envisioning crippled gobblers flying off I ordered a Swampfox Kingslayer with the green circle and cross hair and a meadowcreek mount. Best thing I ever did! I can see my target so much better and if I put that green circle on that turkeys head he's dead no questions asked. You know how on a bead you have to be down on that stock and looking down that vent rib flat? With that red dot if you make a mistake and don't get down on that vent rib but you put that circle on him....... dead. I still hate the way it looks but it's the cats meow for my eyes. Fellas....... I fought it as long as I could but it had to happen.

I do keep a little tool kit in my vest with an extra battery and some tools to remove it in the field if it ever fails.


That's similar to my experience; happened to me about 20 years ago. And even with bad eyes, I've killed a higher % with the red dot. I still would rather not use it, but I'm a more efficient hunter with it.


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Re: School me on red dots [Re: Pwyse] #4087968
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I have used several different types and all have helped my aging eye sight. They really would’ve helped when i was younger and had great eyesight but less patience. I like the low profile FF3 and Venoms best. I always have extra batteries attached to the gun. One gun has a very low profile mount that i can even co witness the rifle sights I used previously. I always make sure before i start the season that they have new batteries and POI = POA. Then i go and try to shoot turkeys in the face with them. The good Lord has blessed me with this tool that will keep turkeys dying and not many wounded as I hopefully keep getting older.

Re: School me on red dots [Re: CarbonClimber1] #4097392
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
link
This is the one i have, its the doctor/vortex venom footprint, not the burris..tru glo sells the mount i used as well..ill try to link it also in a little while


Carbon I just put that sight on my 935 and love it so far. I appreciate the help. Looks to be well made too.

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Good for you sir, i hope you mash a bunch withit🤠


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I've had great luck with the Holosun 510. Wider window than the tubes and auto on / off. It's what I run on all my A.R,s i used to run Eotech's but the price point of the Holosun makes it a no brainer to me.

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