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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/26/24 02:04 PM
02/26/24 02:04 PM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,686 Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
8 point
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Tuscaloosa, AL
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1. Fire Chuck. Then shoot him 2. Fire everyone who had a hand in that CWD debacle 3. find out where all this corn money is going and fire and prosecute the slicks stealing privilege funds 4. Make it against the law for any State official to so much as step foot on an SOA 5. Codify some legislation that makes it illegal to put any CURRENT open permit public land into the SOA system- acquire new lands? fine whatever, but no current property
Private land- Season: Oct 1- Feb 10 statewide. Bow Season Oct 1 - Feb 10 Rifle season Thanksgiving Day- Feb 10 Shoot however many you want, it is your land, you paid for it, everyone else can pound sand
Public land- Season: Oct 1- Feb 10 statewide Bow Season Oct 1 - Feb 10 Rifle season Thanksgiving Day- Feb 10 You can shoot 3 bucks whenever you want- for all you communist/big government/rule lovers, fine, throw in a rule that says bucks must meet one of 3 criteria
150 lbs 13" inside spread confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone This protects all yearlings and a lot of 2 year olds. Might high grade bucks but oh well, this is public land, there aint that many people who are super consistent out there anyway.
Doe days December 20th-31st- 1 per day
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: MC21]
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02/26/24 02:27 PM
02/26/24 02:27 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,680 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,680
Awbarn, AL
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How are you giving the hunters in Marshall Co and Bullock Co the same amount of doe tags?? If you read my proposal your are not. You could limit the number of does shot in a county. Once that number is hit cut off does for that county and apply fines to anyone caught shooting a doe there. It’s the same thing the state is doing for Turkeys on WMAS. 4 “tags” state wide but you can only kill 2 birds on any WMA. In my opinion doe days is the best way to handle moderating doe harvest......I dont see where it needs to be any more complicated than that
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Frankie]
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02/26/24 03:43 PM
02/26/24 03:43 PM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,686 Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
8 point
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Nightwatchman , doe days need to be longer in places . when it was two a day i never put a dent in them here and i was hard on them . were a lot of times id kill two on the same hunt.
ok, sure. If you own the property, shoot does all year long if you want I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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02/26/24 04:09 PM
02/26/24 04:09 PM
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Posts: 176 Alabama
RandanAL
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3 point
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Alabama
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150 lbs confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone Hunters are supposed to be able to analyze deer jaws on the hoof and gauge 150lb? There are also people who pack deer out from deep in public land. If you want antler restrictions X" inside spread and 3-4 points on one side or something along those lines. TBH just limiting to 2 bucks, one with antler restrictions, and 2-3 does + DMP if you want more would increase the deer herd by quite a bit. "I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does"I can see deer on public most hunts but I've only had 1 honey hole on public that I ALWAYS saw deer in. 5-6 does every time and decent bucks most of the time. Was a super narrow SMZ with thick pines on one side and cutover on the other. Didn't know how good I had it there. Huge PITA to get in and out of but it was worth it.
Last edited by RandanAL; 02/26/24 04:15 PM.
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Antelope08]
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02/26/24 04:15 PM
02/26/24 04:15 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 176 Alabama
RandanAL
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Alabama
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Has AL ever tried a antler spread restriction? I have only been here fro 3 yrs and was just wondering? I hunt in MS and they have a antler spread restriction and it set up by the zones they have established......
Other than the SOAs, a few pieces of public land have done them on a trial basis I believe. I know of one at least.
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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02/26/24 04:36 PM
02/26/24 04:36 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 17,339 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Elmore County
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Nightwatchman , doe days need to be longer in places . when it was two a day i never put a dent in them here and i was hard on them . were a lot of times id kill two on the same hunt.
ok, sure. If you own the property, shoot does all year long if you want I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does i kinda miss read that , thought you meant every where for doe days . i see its for public
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: RandanAL]
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02/26/24 04:37 PM
02/26/24 04:37 PM
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Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 811 Louisiana to Central AL
Antelope08
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6 point
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 811
Louisiana to Central AL
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Has AL ever tried a antler spread restriction? I have only been here fro 3 yrs and was just wondering? I hunt in MS and they have a antler spread restriction and it set up by the zones they have established......
Other than the SOAs, a few pieces of public land have done them on a trial basis I believe. I know of one at least. Okay....thanks......
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: RandanAL]
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02/26/24 05:40 PM
02/26/24 05:40 PM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,686 Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,686
Tuscaloosa, AL
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150 lbs confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone Hunters are supposed to be able to analyze deer jaws on the hoof and gauge 150lb? There are also people who pack deer out from deep in public land. If you want antler restrictions X" inside spread and 3-4 points on one side or something along those lines. TBH just limiting to 2 bucks, one with antler restrictions, and 2-3 does + DMP if you want more would increase the deer herd by quite a bit. "I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does"I can see deer on public most hunts but I've only had 1 honey hole on public that I ALWAYS saw deer in. 5-6 does every time and decent bucks most of the time. Was a super narrow SMZ with thick pines on one side and cutover on the other. Didn't know how good I had it there. Huge PITA to get in and out of but it was worth it. Just because you see deer every time doesn’t mean there are too many deer Also, the 3 criteria work together. On average, you would satisfy at least one of those requirements with a 3 year old And if you’re worried about packing out deer on public land, good. It’s supposed to be difficult
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/26/24 06:04 PM
02/26/24 06:04 PM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 324 North AL
aucivil
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Posts: 324
North AL
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15 dog tags
Last edited by aucivil; 02/26/24 06:06 PM.
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: aucivil]
#4091034
02/26/24 06:18 PM
02/26/24 06:18 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,439 USA
marshmud991
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14 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,439
USA
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If you get dog tags, I know where 3 obnoxiously barking dogs are that you can start with!!!
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Lockjaw]
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02/26/24 06:42 PM
02/26/24 06:42 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,853 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,853
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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I don't care what the rules are, only the people who follow rules will follow them. Can a warden just stop me and ask to search my truck? I think not. I suppose he could follow me home and see if I unload it, but you get the point.
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If there is reason to believe you've been hunting then he doesn't have to ask. He/she can just do it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: Lockjaw]
#4091177
02/26/24 09:21 PM
02/26/24 09:21 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 17,339 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Elmore County
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I don't care what the rules are, only the people who follow rules will follow them.
Let me make a point. I could go out on my lease in my truck, with a bed cover, and kill a deer. I could skin and quarter it on the lease, and put the meat in a cooler, under the bed cover. Then leave the club.
Who knows I have a deer? Can a warden just stop me and ask to search my truck? I think not. I suppose he could follow me home and see if I unload it, but you get the point.
And if I hunt my own land I live on, no one needs to know anything.
same with tags , i got nephews and BIL to get tags to use in there name . all id have to do kill the deer call them. people wanna break the law they gonna do it .
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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions
[Re: JHL]
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02/26/24 09:24 PM
02/26/24 09:24 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 17,339 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 17,339
Elmore County
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I'll start by saying that I have no idea of what the deer heard is like in parts of the state that I don't hunt. I do hunt several counties through the black belt. That said, I would be in favor of two weeks of doe season. One around Thanksgiving, the other at Christmas. If you think you have more does that need taking, use the DMP for tags. Three buck tags. If they're gonna continue to charge a baiting fee, hire some more wardens. February 10th end date is not needed everywhere. My two cents worth. thing issss ever body cant use DMP .
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