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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4138574
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Wild hogs= long hair long nose big shoulders narrow hip Eurasian/spanish blood hogs. Evasive survivalist that are expert at avoiding death

Feral hogs= farm pigs who find themselves on the other side of the fence and effort to not return Fat ass floppy eared curly tail targets who secumbe quickly to the wild

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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: hoggin] #4138646
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Originally Posted by hoggin
If you believe a true wild sow will have more than 5 piglets a litter, you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about period.
No wild sow has ever produced more than 10 pigs a year but will reliably produce exactly that. And I’ll guarantee you I know more about the topic than the average person. I killed 600 plus a year from the late 70’s to 2013 in 4 countries and on 2 continents, to say it was my passion is an understatement. I’ve watched them in very large enclosures for years where they were commercially raised for hunting and meat production in the US and Canada. If you can’t feed them all they want to eat and get more than 5 piglets, it ain’t happening in the woods foraging. Ive seen small numbers of tame hogs put large enclosures to cross breed in a effort to increase production and keep wild characteristics decrease in litter size over time and sows they produce will almost always start at 5 per litter.


Not trying to discredit your knowledge on wild hogs but I see multiple sows every winter with more than 5 piglets per litter. The warmer weather litters seem to always be smaller but it’s not uncommon for us to see sows with 6-8. I haven’t hunted 4 countries and 2 continents but I know it’s possible in 1 county of Alabama. 😂

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All these thousands down here have straight ears and straight tails so they must fit your wild category.

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4138744
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Hey guys I just wanted to help out by killing some pigs and providing some people that can use it. And help out some land owner by removing some of them from area and help them out by doing upkeep to the property and any other labor to help them out.
Do I want to do this for fun? Absolutely! My dad really wants to get out and kill pigs he has talked about it repeat and wants to buy a thermal scope to shoot them at night. He will be 70 this year and had back surgery 3 weeks ago so his limited mobility for a while is something I'm trying to work with. I'd love to find a long term relationship with someone and absolutely don't mind making an investment to help them out. I might be willing to purchase a small tractor to help do bush hogging and planting work. i will even make an investment in traps. I have chainsaws and love cutting trees. So I'm very serious about doing this.
I'm in NO way a rich man, but I will make these investments to do somethings to help some families, land owners and let my dad have some fun


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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: BayedUp] #4138975
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Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by hoggin
If you believe a true wild sow will have more than 5 piglets a litter, you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about period.
No wild sow has ever produced more than 10 pigs a year but will reliably produce exactly that. And I’ll guarantee you I know more about the topic than the average person. I killed 600 plus a year from the late 70’s to 2013 in 4 countries and on 2 continents, to say it was my passion is an understatement. I’ve watched them in very large enclosures for years where they were commercially raised for hunting and meat production in the US and Canada. If you can’t feed them all they want to eat and get more than 5 piglets, it ain’t happening in the woods foraging. Ive seen small numbers of tame hogs put large enclosures to cross breed in a effort to increase production and keep wild characteristics decrease in litter size over time and sows they produce will almost always start at 5 per litter.


Not trying to discredit your knowledge on wild hogs but I see multiple sows every winter with more than 5 piglets per litter. The warmer weather litters seem to always be smaller but it’s not uncommon for us to see sows with 6-8. I haven’t hunted 4 countries and 2 continents but I know it’s possible in 1 county of Alabama. 😂




Just because pigs are with a sow don’t mean she birthed them either
Feral hogs may have larger litters for awhile like I say but even they will reduce litter numbers over time in the wild.

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4139104
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Originally Posted by longshot
Like the title says I want to kill some pigs. I have several families that can use the meat and if I can help them out and help out the club/landowner I'd love to do it.
If I can find a place where I can deer, turkey and pig hunt I'd love that but I I've a place to hunt deer and turkeys so it's not a big issue if I can't.
I've been a long time member here and have met numerous members. I have no issue paying to hunt. I will pay a full membership for a club spot if I can find the right place. I have no problem participating in work days or even doing more work than my share.
I'm willing to even set up traps. Will be shooting suppressed and will only use a 4 wheeler on established trails.
Would like to find a place with a camp house that can be used to stay in for over night stays if the land is more than 2 hours from Hartselle. If a club is found I have a camper that I would like to set up.

If you know of a place let me know.

256-466-1122


Amazing how so many bitch about hogs until someone asks to help take care of them.


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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: BowtechDan] #4139107
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Originally Posted by BowtechDan



Amazing how so many bitch about hogs until someone asks to help take care of them.


Yup

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4139238
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I orphaned these 7, but I know they were the same litter.
I’ve had several sows drop 6-7 piglets. The most I’ve seen was 9.
Just going off of what I see…


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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: hoggin] #4139258
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Originally Posted by hoggin
Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by hoggin
If you believe a true wild sow will have more than 5 piglets a litter, you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about period.
No wild sow has ever produced more than 10 pigs a year but will reliably produce exactly that. And I’ll guarantee you I know more about the topic than the average person. I killed 600 plus a year from the late 70’s to 2013 in 4 countries and on 2 continents, to say it was my passion is an understatement. I’ve watched them in very large enclosures for years where they were commercially raised for hunting and meat production in the US and Canada. If you can’t feed them all they want to eat and get more than 5 piglets, it ain’t happening in the woods foraging. Ive seen small numbers of tame hogs put large enclosures to cross breed in a effort to increase production and keep wild characteristics decrease in litter size over time and sows they produce will almost always start at 5 per litter.


Not trying to discredit your knowledge on wild hogs but I see multiple sows every winter with more than 5 piglets per litter. The warmer weather litters seem to always be smaller but it’s not uncommon for us to see sows with 6-8. I haven’t hunted 4 countries and 2 continents but I know it’s possible in 1 county of Alabama. 😂




Just because pigs are with a sow don’t mean she birthed them either
Feral hogs may have larger litters for awhile like I say but even they will reduce litter numbers over time in the wild.


Im well aware that pigs can hang with other sows but it’s ignorant to say that it never happens when quite literally every season we skin multiple sows with up to 10 piglets in them and often watch sows lay down in patches with 6-10 pigs sucking. This property has had hogs for at least 60 years. Just because it doesn’t line up with all the vast knowledge you claim to have about hogs doesn’t mean that it’s impossible on other properties in completely different circumstances.

But hey what do I know. I’ve only hunted and managed these properties for the last 14 years and in that time I’ve only killed a few pigs. 😂

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4139273
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We dont rent pigs
Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4139410
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They have enough per litter and the piglets can reproduce in “X” number of months, then the cycle repeats itself unchecked. Its really irrelevant how many they have per litter past 5 or 7.

I always take the word of folk on the ground -vs- any article or wildlife biologist.

Nowdays I shoot pigs under 15lbs, quarter and fry like chicken. I ain’t gonna run out of meat. Any deer I shoot is under 2 years old. I’m all about easy carrying and the best meat.

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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: JohnnyLoco] #4139428
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
They have enough per litter and the piglets can reproduce in “X” number of months, then the cycle repeats itself unchecked. Its really irrelevant how many they have per litter past 5 or 7.

I always take the word of folk on the ground -vs- any article or wildlife biologist.

Nowdays I shoot pigs under 15lbs, quarter and fry like chicken. I ain’t gonna run out of meat. Any deer I shoot is under 2 years old. I’m all about easy carrying and the best meat.

I kill my fair share of pork but we don’t eat much of it. I make a few pounds of sausage and normally give away all I can then feed the worms and yotes with the rest.

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: longshot] #4139436
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I think I’m so healthy because I really don’t do sausage. 🤣😂

Young clean good cuts of meat for me. When I fry, I use Avocado oil.

I’ve stayed away from products of two family businesses, Community Coffee and Conecuh Sausage. I think both will kill you !

I do use Community coffee in a sprayer to keep bugs away and I eat sausage or hotdogs once a year on Father’s day.

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Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: BayedUp] #4139447
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Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by hoggin
Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by hoggin
If you believe a true wild sow will have more than 5 piglets a litter, you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about period.
No wild sow has ever produced more than 10 pigs a year but will reliably produce exactly that. And I’ll guarantee you I know more about the topic than the average person. I killed 600 plus a year from the late 70’s to 2013 in 4 countries and on 2 continents, to say it was my passion is an understatement. I’ve watched them in very large enclosures for years where they were commercially raised for hunting and meat production in the US and Canada. If you can’t feed them all they want to eat and get more than 5 piglets, it ain’t happening in the woods foraging. Ive seen small numbers of tame hogs put large enclosures to cross breed in a effort to increase production and keep wild characteristics decrease in litter size over time and sows they produce will almost always start at 5 per litter.


Not trying to discredit your knowledge on wild hogs but I see multiple sows every winter with more than 5 piglets per litter. The warmer weather litters seem to always be smaller but it’s not uncommon for us to see sows with 6-8. I haven’t hunted 4 countries and 2 continents but I know it’s possible in 1 county of Alabama. 😂




Just because pigs are with a sow don’t mean she birthed them either
Feral hogs may have larger litters for awhile like I say but even they will reduce litter numbers over time in the wild.


Im well aware that pigs can hang with other sows but it’s ignorant to say that it never happens when quite literally every season we skin multiple sows with up to 10 piglets in them and often watch sows lay down in patches with 6-10 pigs sucking. This property has had hogs for at least 60 years. Just because it doesn’t line up with all the vast knowledge you claim to have about hogs doesn’t mean that it’s impossible on other properties in completely different circumstances.

But hey what do I know. I’ve only hunted and managed these properties for the last 14 years and in that time I’ve only killed a few pigs. 😂

What you just said is spot on with what I've witnessed here for years. A have to agree 100 percent.

Re: Looking for place to hunt pigs [Re: BowtechDan] #4139538
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Originally Posted by BowtechDan
Originally Posted by longshot
Like the title says I want to kill some pigs. I have several families that can use the meat and if I can help them out and help out the club/landowner I'd love to do it.
If I can find a place where I can deer, turkey and pig hunt I'd love that but I I've a place to hunt deer and turkeys so it's not a big issue if I can't.
I've been a long time member here and have met numerous members. I have no issue paying to hunt. I will pay a full membership for a club spot if I can find the right place. I have no problem participating in work days or even doing more work than my share.
I'm willing to even set up traps. Will be shooting suppressed and will only use a 4 wheeler on established trails.
Would like to find a place with a camp house that can be used to stay in for over night stays if the land is more than 2 hours from Hartselle. If a club is found I have a camper that I would like to set up.

If you know of a place let me know.

256-466-1122


Amazing how so many bitch about hogs until someone asks to help take care of them.


Hunting them vs taking care of them - two drastically different things. If he was asking for permission to show up with a pig brig and put in the time and effort to make a real dent - that’s one thing. But we haven’t heard that offer yet. Landowners who bitch don’t need another hunter to just show up and shoot a little - they’ve probably already tried that, don’t you reckon thumbup

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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by BowtechDan
Originally Posted by longshot
Like the title says I want to kill some pigs. I have several families that can use the meat and if I can help them out and help out the club/landowner I'd love to do it.
If I can find a place where I can deer, turkey and pig hunt I'd love that but I I've a place to hunt deer and turkeys so it's not a big issue if I can't.
I've been a long time member here and have met numerous members. I have no issue paying to hunt. I will pay a full membership for a club spot if I can find the right place. I have no problem participating in work days or even doing more work than my share.
I'm willing to even set up traps. Will be shooting suppressed and will only use a 4 wheeler on established trails.
Would like to find a place with a camp house that can be used to stay in for over night stays if the land is more than 2 hours from Hartselle. If a club is found I have a camper that I would like to set up.

If you know of a place let me know.

256-466-1122


Amazing how so many bitch about hogs until someone asks to help take care of them.


Hunting them vs taking care of them - two drastically different things. If he was asking for permission to show up with a pig brig and put in the time and effort to make a real dent - that’s one thing. But we haven’t heard that offer yet. Landowners who bitch don’t need another hunter to just show up and shoot a little - they’ve probably already tried that, don’t you reckon thumbup

Yep

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“Wild sows can have 2 litters per year with up to 10 piglets per litter”

Thought I’d stoke the debate some more. 🤣😂🤣😂

https://www.themeateater.com/conservation/wildlife-management/kentucky-finalizes-hog-hunting-ban

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I caught/killed about 1,000 in a 4 year time frame and I’d say the average litter size was 4-6. Some had 7-8 and rarely did we encounter any with over 8. We did, but it wasn’t the norm. That’s real world yanking out fetuses of pregnant sows or trapping sows with small piglets.

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