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Planted 5 chufa patches today #4151924
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All I can say ifs we got it done and didn’t die..

It was Hot for 60 year old men.

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4151944
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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4153071
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Awesome. I have never planted any. But I'm thinking about trying next year.

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4153133
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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
All I can say ifs we got it done and didn’t die..

It was Hot for 60 year old men.



Good luck with them! I planted on May 29, and got a couple of rains in the first week; nothing since. I went ahead and sprayed them Friday, but it needs to rain!

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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4153148
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Do you use any pre-emergent? We decided to try it this year. Sprayed Treflan and tilled it in yesterday. Just waiting for some decent rain chances show up then we will plant and fertilize. I'll be interested to see how the pre-emergent works out. Seem to work great for Squeaky based off pics of his I have seen.

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Originally Posted by Mully
Do you use any pre-emergent? We decided to try it this year. Sprayed Treflan and tilled it in yesterday. Just waiting for some decent rain chances show up then we will plant and fertilize. I'll be interested to see how the pre-emergent works out. Seem to work great for Squeaky based off pics of his I have seen.


I sprayed Prowl on mine right after planting. It's incorporated by the rain and seems to have worked pretty well. It didn't really need it yet, but I went ahead and sprayed it with Clethodim + Milestone and it should be pretty clean for a while. The big question now is the rain. We missed the one yesterday and it looks like more dry weather ahead.


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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: Mully] #4153716
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Originally Posted by Mully
Do you use any pre-emergent? We decided to try it this year. Sprayed Treflan and tilled it in yesterday. Just waiting for some decent rain chances show up then we will plant and fertilize. I'll be interested to see how the pre-emergent works out. Seem to work great for Squeaky based off pics of his I have seen.


We used Treflan.

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #4154003
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
All I can say ifs we got it done and didn’t die..

It was Hot for 60 year old men.



Good luck with them! I planted on May 29, and got a couple of rains in the first week; nothing since. I went ahead and sprayed them Friday, but it needs to rain!

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Those are going to do great

Chufas are tough plants

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4154183
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I'm going to attempt planting mine later this year as my chufa plots have become difficult to control the weeds. I have sickle pod in one of them and I can't get rid of it. I'm hoping by planting late the weeds will be less of an issue and I catch late summer thunderstorms.


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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: Squeaky] #4155080
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Originally Posted by Squeaky
I'm going to attempt planting mine later this year as my chufa plots have become difficult to control the weeds. I have sickle pod in one of them and I can't get rid of it. I'm hoping by planting late the weeds will be less of an issue and I catch late summer thunderstorms.


We planted mid July one year and had a good crop. It was a wet summer

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4156069
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I’m planning on planting within the next couple weeks depending on how much trouble I run into getting hay cut and baled.

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4179013
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Went today and checked them for the first time since
planting. Have some weeds but a lot of chufa

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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4179110
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Great looking crop! No way would they do that well in my fields without herbicides over the top.

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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Great looking crop! No way would they do that well in my fields without herbicides over the top.


Those are in new log landings and one new bulldozed field. We stopped planting in the old
spots due to weeds.

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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Great looking crop! No way would they do that well in my fields without herbicides over the top.


Those are in new log landings and one new bulldozed field. We stopped planting in the old
spots due to weeds.


Well, that explains it. I have found that new ground will often grow a crop without herbicides. And since you used a PRE, that gave you some great looking fields.

Here's a pic from last week of the same field I posted earlier:

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You can see that I've got some sicklepod starting to get above the chufas in a few places. That is mostly due to the applicator not lapping properly, so I would call that applicator error instead of herbicide failure. BTW, I was the applicator. smile


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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
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Great looking crop! No way would they do that well in my fields without herbicides over the top.


Those are in new log landings and one new bulldozed field. We stopped planting in the old
spots due to weeds.


Well, that explains it. I have found that new ground will often grow a crop without herbicides. And since you used a PRE, that gave you some great looking fields.

Here's a pic from last week of the same field I posted earlier:

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You can see that I've got some sicklepod starting to get above the chufas in a few places. That is mostly due to the applicator not lapping properly, so I would call that applicator error instead of herbicide failure. BTW, I was the applicator. smile



Man that looks good. I started to spray some of ours but my experience has been if the chufas
are sticking out above the morning glory’s at this point then they are going to make.

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Im seriously thinking about spraying our old spots with Arsenal then spraying the next
year with Roundup. I mean burning it to the ground to get rid of Nutsedge.


It will be a 3 year deal to plant but it might work.

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Be VERY careful with Arsenal, you can almost have the ground sterile....for years, and it will kill large oaks by simply getting in the roots. Ask me how I know. shocked

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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Im seriously thinking about spraying our old spots with Arsenal then spraying the next
year with Roundup. I mean burning it to the ground to get rid of Nutsedge.


It will be a 3 year deal to plant but it might work.


That's a great idea, but I would just do it with Halosulfuron for nutgrass control. I am planning the same thing this fall on several patches, including the one in the picture.


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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Im seriously thinking about spraying our old spots with Arsenal then spraying the next
year with Roundup. I mean burning it to the ground to get rid of Nutsedge.


It will be a 3 year deal to plant but it might work.


That's a great idea, but I would just do it with Halosulfuron for nutgrass control. I am planning the same thing this fall on several patches, including the one in the picture.


Please educate me on Halosulfuron

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I need to know because we have probably 25 acres in pipeline and powerline fields we
can plant that the nut grass has taken over.

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I've only used Halosulfuron a few times, but it's the only thing I've found that will kill nutgrass. I believe that there is one other herbicide rated to kill it, but I've forgotten the name and have never used it. It's expensive, and I have never tried to eradicate nutgrass from a field with it. All I've done is to hand spray patches of it within a chufa patch, and it definitely kills it.

The cheapest place I've found for small amounts is actually Amazon. If you try it, please let us know how it does. It takes an ounce per acre.



Empero Nutsedge Killer (1.33 oz) by Atticus (Compare to The Leading Brand) - Halosulfuron-Methyl 75% Turf Herbicide - Kills Nut Grass in Established Lawns, Ornamental Turfgrass, & Landscape Areas https://a.co/d/bUI25uh

If you are going to try a large area, this is a much better buy from Keystone:

https://www.keystonepestsolutions.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=285

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Hunterturf on here has a good amount of experience with killing nutsedge so I reached out to him yesterday. His product of choice is prosedge as he uses it nearly daily with his business. If spot spraying use .9 grams mixed in 1-2 gallons of water along with a non-ionic surfactant. If mixing a larger load it's 1.3 oz per acre and add non-ionic surfactant. I plan to follow his advice next spring/early summer to see if I can get my nutgrass problem in check.

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Originally Posted by Squeaky
Hunterturf on here has a good amount of experience with killing nutsedge so I reached out to him yesterday. His product of choice is prosedge as he uses it nearly daily with his business. If spot spraying use .9 grams mixed in 1-2 gallons of water along with a non-ionic surfactant. If mixing a larger load it's 1.3 oz per acre and add non-ionic surfactant. I plan to follow his advice next spring/early summer to see if I can get my nutgrass problem in check.


Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Sandra, Prosedge, Sedgehammer, and Empero are all Halosulfuron. The Sandea is the only one I've actually used, but I already bought some of the Amazon brand and will apply it soon. I don't know if one is better than the others.


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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by Squeaky
Hunterturf on here has a good amount of experience with killing nutsedge so I reached out to him yesterday. His product of choice is prosedge as he uses it nearly daily with his business. If spot spraying use .9 grams mixed in 1-2 gallons of water along with a non-ionic surfactant. If mixing a larger load it's 1.3 oz per acre and add non-ionic surfactant. I plan to follow his advice next spring/early summer to see if I can get my nutgrass problem in check.


Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Sandra, Prosedge, Sedgehammer, and Empero are all Halosulfuron. The Sandea is the only one I've actually used, but I already bought some of the Amazon brand and will apply it soon. I don't know if one is better than the others.


I have not confirmed that Halosulfuron is the active ingredient in all the one you listed but I can confirm it is in Prosedge.

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Originally Posted by Squeaky
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by Squeaky
Hunterturf on here has a good amount of experience with killing nutsedge so I reached out to him yesterday. His product of choice is prosedge as he uses it nearly daily with his business. If spot spraying use .9 grams mixed in 1-2 gallons of water along with a non-ionic surfactant. If mixing a larger load it's 1.3 oz per acre and add non-ionic surfactant. I plan to follow his advice next spring/early summer to see if I can get my nutgrass problem in check.


Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Sandra, Prosedge, Sedgehammer, and Empero are all Halosulfuron. The Sandea is the only one I've actually used, but I already bought some of the Amazon brand and will apply it soon. I don't know if one is better than the others.


I have not confirmed that Halosulfuron is the active ingredient in all the one you listed but I can confirm it is in Prosedge.


I looked up prosedge but didn’t see chufa listed on the charts.

I don’t think a pre emerge chemical can handle the nut grass I am dealing with. I could
be wrong but I think the minute the pre emerge wears off the nut grass will be 2 feet tall
In 2 weeks

Ive seen chufa still make crops with a late emergence of nut grass though.

It’s pretty frustrating trying to figure it out.

We need to all try something different and figure out what works

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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by Squeaky
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by Squeaky
Hunterturf on here has a good amount of experience with killing nutsedge so I reached out to him yesterday. His product of choice is prosedge as he uses it nearly daily with his business. If spot spraying use .9 grams mixed in 1-2 gallons of water along with a non-ionic surfactant. If mixing a larger load it's 1.3 oz per acre and add non-ionic surfactant. I plan to follow his advice next spring/early summer to see if I can get my nutgrass problem in check.


Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Sandra, Prosedge, Sedgehammer, and Empero are all Halosulfuron. The Sandea is the only one I've actually used, but I already bought some of the Amazon brand and will apply it soon. I don't know if one is better than the others.


I have not confirmed that Halosulfuron is the active ingredient in all the one you listed but I can confirm it is in Prosedge.


I looked up prosedge but didn’t see chufa listed on the charts.

I don’t think a pre emerge chemical can handle the nut grass I am dealing with. I could
be wrong but I think the minute the pre emerge wears off the nut grass will be 2 feet tall
In 2 weeks

Ive seen chufa still make crops with a late emergence of nut grass though.

It’s pretty frustrating trying to figure it out.

We need to all try something different and figure out what works


I don't think you will find any of those listed as a chufa herbicide; all of them will kill chufas. Halosulfuron is useful in growing chufas only as a way to kill all the nutgrass out of a field in a year when you aren't growing chufas. You probably already understand this, but I gotta admit that I am getting confused by this thread. smile

I don't think it makes any real difference which brand name of Halosulfuron you use or what how that formulation was intended to be used. I think the small 1.3 oz packets are intended for lawns, but they oughta kill nutgrass wherever it is used. But none of them will ever be listed as a chufa herbicide.

I have used several different brand names of Clethodim, but I can't tell any difference in them. I believe that Halosulfuron will be the same way. I could be wrong.

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Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4183139
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You are right. I got a little side tracked there.

Are you going to disk and let the nut grass come up then spray it this fall?

Re: Planted 5 chufa patches today [Re: oldbowhunter] #4183206
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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
You are right. I got a little side tracked there.

Are you going to disk and let the nut grass come up then spray it this fall?


That's what I was planning, but I am getting behind on my work. We are going to need more rain in order for me to do it.


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Yep. I’m going to be at turkey land this weekend spraying green fields. I might hit a
powerline with a disk.

Might as well try.

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