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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: Treelimb]
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07/04/24 05:29 PM
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I have two old Leupold vari x III’s 3.5x10x 50 on my daughters guns. Absolutely bomb proof and great scopes. Somebody had one on here a little while back for sale.
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: thayerp81]
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07/06/24 12:09 PM
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If lightweight, compact and low light is a priority it will be very hard the beat a VX-3 2.5-8x36. It’s a little known fact that this scope has the highest light transmission of ANY scope that leupold makes. Lightweight, compact and affordable (relatively) to boot. This is absolutely a false statement.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: AU338MAG]
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07/06/24 12:34 PM
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If lightweight, compact and low light is a priority it will be very hard the beat a VX-3 2.5-8x36. It’s a little known fact that this scope has the highest light transmission of ANY scope that leupold makes. Lightweight, compact and affordable (relatively) to boot. This is absolutely a false statement. You might want to take that up with Tim Lesser, Leupolds VP of product development. He’s publicly announced it multiple times, at the expense of their more expensive options. Here’s an excerpt from the the backcountry hunting podcast a couple years back. “And so that scope is extremely lightweight. It also, this is something a lot of people don't know, is it provides the highest light transmission out of any optic we make.” From Backcountry Hunting Podcast: Leupold Riflescopes: Behind the Scenes with Tim Lesser, May 20, 2022 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/backcountry-hunting-podcast/id1455406581?i=1000562750614This material may be protected by copyright.
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: thayerp81]
#4159162
07/06/24 01:09 PM
07/06/24 01:09 PM
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RidgeRanger
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If lightweight, compact and low light is a priority it will be very hard the beat a VX-3 2.5-8x36. It’s a little known fact that this scope has the highest light transmission of ANY scope that leupold makes. Lightweight, compact and affordable (relatively) to boot. This is absolutely a false statement. You might want to take that up with Tim Lesser, Leupolds VP of product development. He’s publicly announced it multiple times, at the expense of their more expensive options. Here’s an excerpt from the the backcountry hunting podcast a couple years back. “And so that scope is extremely lightweight. It also, this is something a lot of people don't know, is it provides the highest light transmission out of any optic we make.” From Backcountry Hunting Podcast: Leupold Riflescopes: Behind the Scenes with Tim Lesser, May 20, 2022 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/backcountry-hunting-podcast/id1455406581?i=1000562750614This material may be protected by copyright. I heard that podcast as well. He did make that statement.
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: Treelimb]
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07/06/24 04:57 PM
07/06/24 04:57 PM
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have a couple leupy vxr 4-12x40 and am partial to the 30mm tube and the ballistic firedot. they sit nice and low in low rings
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: RidgeRanger]
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07/06/24 05:44 PM
07/06/24 05:44 PM
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Posts: 18,831 North AL
AU338MAG
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If lightweight, compact and low light is a priority it will be very hard the beat a VX-3 2.5-8x36. It’s a little known fact that this scope has the highest light transmission of ANY scope that leupold makes. Lightweight, compact and affordable (relatively) to boot. This is absolutely a false statement. You might want to take that up with Tim Lesser, Leupolds VP of product development. He’s publicly announced it multiple times, at the expense of their more expensive options. Here’s an excerpt from the the backcountry hunting podcast a couple years back. “And so that scope is extremely lightweight. It also, this is something a lot of people don't know, is it provides the highest light transmission out of any optic we make.” From Backcountry Hunting Podcast: Leupold Riflescopes: Behind the Scenes with Tim Lesser, May 20, 2022 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/backcountry-hunting-podcast/id1455406581?i=1000562750614This material may be protected by copyright. I heard that podcast as well. He did make that statement. Why would he make that statement when Leupold claims that their VX5/6 and MARK V scopes have their twilight max lens coatings for their best low light performance? Either their marketing is wrong or he's FOS.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: AU338MAG]
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07/06/24 05:49 PM
07/06/24 05:49 PM
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RidgeRanger
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Why would he make that statement when Leupold claims that their VX5/6 and MARK V scopes have their twilight max lens coatings for their best low light performance?
Either their marketing is wrong or he's FOS.
My guess would be the little 2.5-8x36 is an optimal design and has less lenses in it to eat up light. Higher zoom ratios and side focus require more glass, and regardless of the coatings, each lens eats a little light. Either that or he's FOS.
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: RidgeRanger]
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07/06/24 06:08 PM
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AU338MAG
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Why would he make that statement when Leupold claims that their VX5/6 and MARK V scopes have their twilight max lens coatings for their best low light performance?
Either their marketing is wrong or he's FOS.
My guess would be the little 2.5-8x36 is an optimal design and has less lenses in it to eat up light. Higher zoom ratios and side focus require more glass, and regardless of the coatings, each lens eats a little light. Either that or he's FOS. It wouldn't make any sense for just the 2.5x8 scope to be better than the rest of the VX 3 HD scopes with the same coatings and construction, which makes me believe he's FOS.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: AU338MAG]
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07/06/24 06:28 PM
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Why would he make that statement when Leupold claims that their VX5/6 and MARK V scopes have their twilight max lens coatings for their best low light performance?
Either their marketing is wrong or he's FOS.
My guess would be the little 2.5-8x36 is an optimal design and has less lenses in it to eat up light. Higher zoom ratios and side focus require more glass, and regardless of the coatings, each lens eats a little light. Either that or he's FOS. It wouldn't make any sense for just the 2.5x8 scope to be better than the rest of the VX 3 HD scopes with the same coatings and construction, which makes me believe he's FOS. I wouldn’t say he is FOS. He is just commenting on something that someone probably told him or he really likes that scope for his application and wants it to be more than that to really is. My gosh! That is about 50% of the people on here! Not a lot of accountability in what people say here. However, there are a few in here that really know their stuff! When those people drop a message here, I try to listen. Truth on the scopes is that there truly are a lot of amazing scopes available in the market today. I have even been humbled by one or two that turned out to be much better than I expected. This coming from an absolute confessed scope snob. Narrow it down to 3 scopes and then swing buy a store that has them all and see what you think. Of all the great characteristics of these modern scopes, the clarity is the most important to me. I like a crisp, clear image. I have found that if you get that in daylight hours, you will also get great light gathering in low light conditions.
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Re: Scope Shopping
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07/06/24 07:20 PM
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Why would he make that statement when Leupold claims that their VX5/6 and MARK V scopes have their twilight max lens coatings for their best low light performance?
Either their marketing is wrong or he's FOS.
My guess would be the little 2.5-8x36 is an optimal design and has less lenses in it to eat up light. Higher zoom ratios and side focus require more glass, and regardless of the coatings, each lens eats a little light. Either that or he's FOS. It wouldn't make any sense for just the 2.5x8 scope to be better than the rest of the VX 3 HD scopes with the same coatings and construction, which makes me believe he's FOS. Back in the day when Var-X III was the top of the line , the 2.5-8 X 36 was supposed to be the best low light , light transmitting of any Leupold . I don't see how that holds true now though, the VX5 and 6 should be better. I replaced a 2.5-8 with a VXR 2-7X33 Firedot . It 's no doubt brighter or I wouldn't have swapped it.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: Treelimb]
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07/06/24 07:22 PM
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Posts: 18,831 North AL
AU338MAG
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First, the Leupold 2.5-8x36 is a very good scope and I have had several through the years and still have a couple. But I started getting away from Leupold about 20 years ago primarily due to the fine duplex reticle that I could not see in low light. The old Zeiss Conquest 3-9 had a much better reticle and a slight edge in low light performance for just a little more $$ . Those scopes were discontinued about 10 years ago so I looked at the Swarovski Z3 scopes. Better than the VX3 or Conquest scopes in every way IMO except for eye relief which is slightly less on the Z3. And the Z3 is available with the best hunting reticle of all in the 4A reticle.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Scope Shopping
[Re: AU338MAG]
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07/06/24 07:32 PM
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First, the Leupold 2.5-8x36 is a very good scope and I have had several through the years and still have a couple. But I started getting away from Leupold about 20 years ago primarily due to the fine duplex reticle that I could not see in low light. The old Zeiss Conquest 3-9 had a much better reticle and a slight edge in low light performance for just a little more $$ . Those scopes were discontinued about 10 years ago so I looked at the Swarovski Z3 scopes. Better than the VX3 or Conquest scopes in every way IMO except for eye relief which is slightly less on the Z3. And the Z3 is available with the best hunting reticle of all in the 4A reticle.
I hear ya ,the 2.5 - 8 my son has and the one I swapped out both had been sent back to Leupold and had heavy duplex installed. Why Leupold never offered Heavies in the 2.5-8 is a mystery . Heavies were available in 1.75 - 6 , 3.5-10 and 4.5-14. I asked a Leupold rep and he had no idee why it wasn't offered.
"Why do you ask"?
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