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For those seeing lots of poults…….
#4160850
07/10/24 12:50 PM
07/10/24 12:50 PM
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What are you attributing the good hatch to versus the bad years??..... ……Did more dominant gobblers get to breed this year?.....Was it weather related??......Did predators have less impact?..... Things don’t happen “just because”…… ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
Last edited by CNC; 07/10/24 12:50 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: Pwyse]
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07/10/24 08:06 PM
07/10/24 08:06 PM
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cartervj
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Cycles cyclically cycling Drumming counts are way up for grouse in WI
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: CNC]
#4161063
07/10/24 08:46 PM
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Things don’t happen “just because”…… ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) They don't but the combination of things can be attributed to "just because. Why would a well managed "optimal" property we deal with have an excellent hatch the same year that a "sub-prime" that we deal with? One has all the components and traps, the other is timber managed and both are burned. Both have good turkeys but the optimal has consistently higher densities. Both have good hatches in the same years. One just has more due to better habitat and predator control.
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
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07/10/24 09:20 PM
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Why would a well managed "optimal" property we deal with have an excellent hatch the same year that a "sub-prime" that we deal with? . Ideal weather conditions lining up for both places (whatever that entails and impacts) ……Most other factors would be more site specific I would think.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
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07/11/24 11:51 AM
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There’s a lot factors that can be attributed to successful hatches, What are those factors?.....Wouldnt the vast majority be weather or predation related at the root of it??....
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: CNC]
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07/11/24 01:48 PM
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There’s a lot factors that can be attributed to successful hatches, What are those factors?.....Wouldnt the vast majority be weather or predation related at the root of it??.... What about the thriving population here by the Singing River bridge where all the unhuntable/untrappable TVA land land is. From Wilson dam to O’Neal bridge is lots of deer and turkey. Coyotes and coons too, there’s only one predator not allowed. Lol
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: cartervj]
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07/11/24 02:23 PM
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What about the thriving population here by the Singing River bridge where all the unhuntable/untrappable TVA land land is. From Wilson dam to O’Neal bridge is lots of deer and turkey. Coyotes and coons too, there’s only one predator not allowed. Lol Its no different than all the areas that arent getting hunted that have zero turkeys…..That really isnt a factor in population growth.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: CNC]
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07/11/24 03:13 PM
07/11/24 03:13 PM
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cartervj
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What about the thriving population here by the Singing River bridge where all the unhuntable/untrappable TVA land land is. From Wilson dam to O’Neal bridge is lots of deer and turkey. Coyotes and coons too, there’s only one predator not allowed. Lol Its no different than all the areas that arent getting hunted that have zero turkeys…..That really isnt a factor in population growth. Why don’t they have turkeys if it’s suitable habitat
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: CNC]
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07/11/24 04:52 PM
07/11/24 04:52 PM
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A friend of mine (retired bio) always said if your managing for a 4 inch tall bird everything above it benefits.
I think rotating thru early successional habitat is pretty strong for all of the critters.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: cartervj]
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07/12/24 06:06 PM
07/12/24 06:06 PM
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What about the thriving population here by the Singing River bridge where all the unhuntable/untrappable TVA land land is. From Wilson dam to O’Neal bridge is lots of deer and turkey. Coyotes and coons too, there’s only one predator not allowed. Lol Its no different than all the areas that arent getting hunted that have zero turkeys…..That really isnt a factor in population growth. Why don’t they have turkeys if it’s suitable habitat Landscape level predator populations define what suitable means…… High levels of predation on hens/eggs/poults is the problem
We dont rent pigs
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Re: For those seeing lots of poults…….
[Re: CNC]
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07/13/24 02:26 PM
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Found a pile of poult feathers in an early successional area that was burned in late march or early April. The bird was in good brood cover the only thing that would have saved it is if there were no predators around. Good habitat supports predators and prey. Trap those predators!
Job 12:7-9
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