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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: AU338MAG] #4162626
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
The secret service had a MASSIVE failure today.

NO ONE should be able to get on a rooftop within 1000 yards of a presidential candidate.


From what the red headed guy that was interviewed by BBC said... they had a sniper and spotter looking at the roof, but they couldn't see the backside of it due to their elevation I guess. So the guy climbs up from the backside and pops his head over the ridge and fires off a few quick shots and then get smoked by the snipers and spotters. Seems like it would have been easy to cover the backside of the roof but who knows?

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4162632
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Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
Wow. 3 hours after the fact and ALdeer has it all figured out. 🙄


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162635
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by Red Fox
I would think there is no way in h.ll that an ordinary citizen could get on a roof at a Presidential Rally with an unobstructed view of the President. Without some inside help that is.


You might be surprised. When I was kid I walked right into a Ronald Reagan speech in Montgomery and just wandered around everywhere unchecked. I was a kid and not threatening but nobody really even looked at me. I was kind of invisible it seemed.


I never been to a presidential rally but you would be surprised what you can do and where you can go with a 6 foot ladder and a set of blueprints, sometimes I just shake my head at where I go and just get to walk around.

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162639
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Most of the time no questions asked, iam really doing work but you would think I would get more questions.

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: jbatey1] #4162643
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
How does someone even get onto a roof, within a mile of something like this with all of today’s technology??? A simple drone, helicopter, or anyone half ass paying attention would of had to of been able to see that shooter, if the picture of the guy dead on a roof is the actual photo


Yep something doesn’t add up. They use advance teams. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING , is left to chance. Lot of preparation. I participated in a detail as part of my old agency when Biden was VP. Very strange the counter sniper team didn’t take shooter out before he got a shot off. That building would have been locked down so no one could get on roof.

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The shot wouldn’t have been taken from that roof. Too exposed. That guy wasn’t “the” shooter. He’s merely the fall guy, prob room temp before he was planted on the roof. That shot would have been taken from concealment and whether it was the wind, Trump moving, or the hand of God…the bullet did not find its mark.


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Pwyse] #4162647
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
The secret service had a MASSIVE failure today.

NO ONE should be able to get on a rooftop within 1000 yards of a presidential candidate.


From what the red headed guy that was interviewed by BBC said... they had a sniper and spotter looking at the roof, but they couldn't see the backside of it due to their elevation I guess. So the guy climbs up from the backside and pops his head over the ridge and fires off a few quick shots and then get smoked by the snipers and spotters. Seems like it would have been easy to cover the backside of the roof but who knows?


The secret service should have be on THAT roof. It’s only 300 yards from the rally.

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Cactus_buck] #4162654
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Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
The secret service had a MASSIVE failure today.

NO ONE should be able to get on a rooftop within 1000 yards of a presidential candidate.


From what the red headed guy that was interviewed by BBC said... they had a sniper and spotter looking at the roof, but they couldn't see the backside of it due to their elevation I guess. So the guy climbs up from the backside and pops his head over the ridge and fires off a few quick shots and then get smoked by the snipers and spotters. Seems like it would have been easy to cover the backside of the roof but who knows?


The secret service should have be on THAT roof. It’s only 300 yards from the rally.


How many secret service do they have available for these rallies? That may have something to do with it.

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162658
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What a cluster, Trump is the man

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162667
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I went to a Reagan rally and that place was locked down for more than 500yds away
This stinks to high heaven


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162682
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Look at the graphic. Secret Service is going to have a difficult time explaining why that spot was not covered. Its the most obvious spot to secure first. https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1812297015617032540


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Looking at that aerial photo, how in the hell did the ss not have people on that roof. That was THE SPOT for an ambush, makes you shake your head

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162689
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I just don't understand how someone can get that close without inside help


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162693
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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162699
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Look at the graphic. Secret Service is going to have a difficult time explaining why that spot was not covered. Its the most obvious spot to secure first. https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1812297015617032540


Yeah. I'd say so. 420' away too. Jeez how are they going to explain that? Surely Trump is very close with the head of his secret service guys.

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My cousin told me the shooter is Mark Violets and he’s antifa. My cousin is usually pretty good about finding the stuff so we’ll see

Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162712
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That is fraking rediculous and how was it not deliberate

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Since it was supposed to be covered by the “b team” maybe the “a team “ figured it was the “ b team “ until he started shooting

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Well the b team left an elevated position 300 yards directly in front of the president on the podium. I can't believe in that much incompetence, which says it was deliberate

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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: jake5050] #4162735
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Originally Posted by jake5050
Well the b team left an elevated position 300 yards directly in front of the president on the podium. I can't believe in that much incompetence, which says it was deliberate


Don’t disagree at all just referring to the posts about the sniper not shooting beforehand

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