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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: mw2015] #4162737
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Originally Posted by mw2015
Originally Posted by jbatey1
How does someone even get onto a roof, within a mile of something like this with all of today’s technology??? A simple drone, helicopter, or anyone half ass paying attention would of had to of been able to see that shooter, if the picture of the guy dead on a roof is the actual photo


Yep something doesn’t add up. They use advance teams. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING , is left to chance. Lot of preparation. I participated in a detail as part of my old agency when Biden was VP. Very strange the counter sniper team didn’t take shooter out before he got a shot off. That building would have been locked down so no one could get on roof.

Saw a report just a minute ago saying the shooter was on a rooftop 135 meters from the stage. If that is true, there’s no way that someone else wasn’t involved and just turned their head and allowed that guy to climb up there. Most of the time everything is locked down and secured out beyond 1000 yards.

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Originally Posted by Broadhead26
My cousin told me the shooter is Mark Violets and he’s antifa. My cousin is usually pretty good about finding the stuff so we’ll see



I was guessing ex military too.

If pics I just posted are real I’ll recant the military deal

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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by mw2015
Originally Posted by jbatey1
How does someone even get onto a roof, within a mile of something like this with all of today’s technology??? A simple drone, helicopter, or anyone half ass paying attention would of had to of been able to see that shooter, if the picture of the guy dead on a roof is the actual photo


Yep something doesn’t add up. They use advance teams. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING , is left to chance. Lot of preparation. I participated in a detail as part of my old agency when Biden was VP. Very strange the counter sniper team didn’t take shooter out before he got a shot off. That building would have been locked down so no one could get on roof.

Saw a report just a minute ago saying the shooter was on a rooftop 135 meters from the stage. If that is true, there’s no way that someone else wasn’t involved and just turned their head and allowed that guy to climb up there. Most of the time everything is locked down and secured out beyond 1000 yards.
He slipped up that creek maybe or something....walked up there....looked around hopped on that gutter.....


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162757
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X is busy. Most of the regular newcasters are having operational problems and Alex Jones is kinda hung up at about 2.5 million viewers...sh1t, for a Saturday night. Thats insane.
Elon Musk got lit up, he is firing shots at all kinds of people right now. I wonder if those folks really understand how much power Elon has.


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162758
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Supposedly the shooter but doesn’t match the name mentioned pics

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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Skinny] #4162765
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A little more blood from his ear than future President Trump’s today.


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My issue is with how quickly the shooter was taken out. He shot 5 times then the return fire was almost instantaneous. How do you hear something like that, figure out where it’s coming from, look, aim and fire that quickly?

My tin foil has is on fire. Someone was in on this. Someone had him (shooter) in the cross hairs WHEN he shot then took the shooter out immediately so there’s no way he could be questioned.

There are really only two scenarios. Someone in Trumps SS security detail was in on it, or they are grossly incompetent. I hate to say it but I believe it’s both. May the Lord protect President Trump and the good people of this country. This is NOT America. The people who want something like this are a fringe. Less than 5% of the population I think (hope, pray).

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Luckily those lip wrist pussies can't shoot for shucks.


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Re: The Shooter...maybe [Re: Robert D.] #4162819
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Originally Posted by Robert D.
My issue is with how quickly the shooter was taken out. He shot 5 times then the return fire was almost instantaneous. How do you hear something like that, figure out where it’s coming from, look, aim and fire that quickly?

My tin foil has is on fire. Someone was in on this. Someone had him (shooter) in the cross hairs WHEN he shot then took the shooter out immediately so there’s no way he could be questioned.

There are really only two scenarios. Someone in Trumps SS security detail was in on it, or they are grossly incompetent. I hate to say it but I believe it’s both. May the Lord protect President Trump and the good people of this country. This is NOT America. The people who want something like this are a fringe. Less than 5% of the population I think (hope, pray).



The guys pointing and yelling he’s got a gun and nothing was happening as the shooter went up the building according to the interview.

Huge failure and a flank position too. Geez.


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So what caliber weapon was it? Did we ever figure it out?

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They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

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So what caliber weapon was it? Did we ever figure it out?




They said they recovered a AR

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Originally Posted by cartervj
They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

They're more than accurate enough for a 135 yard shot.


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

They're more than accurate enough for a 135 yard shot.
yep I like how the news is saying that the shooter was defiantly skilled and knew what he was doing

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Somebody with sound analysis software said NATO


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

They're more than accurate enough for a 135 yard shot.



Not all of them. Heck I had one that wouldn’t shoot at 50 yards. One I have now is a little different.


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Originally Posted by scrape
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

They're more than accurate enough for a 135 yard shot.
yep I like how the news is saying that the shooter was defiantly skilled and knew what he was doing



I wonder.


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
They’re saying AR 15 since it’s such and accurate gun.

I’ve seen some that were but most cheapos can’t shoot too well

They're more than accurate enough for a 135 yard shot.


They definitely are accurate enough but you've got a guy literally on a hot tin roof in the the summer trying to make a shot on one of the most recognized politicians in recent memory.
It was 90 degrees so that roof was probably around 130 or better. His heart rate was likely equal to or greater than the roof temp. The defining characteristic of several famous assassins, he had not gone through marksmanship training at Parris Island.
Not many could get on a tin roof in the middle of July and make that shot.


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