Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Aldeer General Forum Statins- beneficial or harmful and why

A while back I recall reading somewhere on Aldeer about people refusing to take statins. Prior to that i never heard anything negative about them. I've looked into it more and found others that say statins are bad and they absolutely refuse to take them. I'm undecided. So I'm looking for more input from people regarding statins. Have you taken them? Have you been prescribed then but refuse to take them? Did you once take them but have since stopped? And I'm most curious as to why you made the decision you did. Please chime in.

Ive been hearing theyve made some real improvements on them. Theres a shot you can take once a month that is supposed to lower cholestrrol to a normal level. I dont like shots though

Look up the Space Doc and Statins”

They are for Conecuh sausage eatin, Community coffee drinking, cigarette smoking, undisciplined losers !

Fact is, the peoples with the highest cholesterol in a certain area of the world have the least amount of heart diseases.

You wanna die, follow doctors orders.

Simple answer. If you have a strong family history, other co-morbidities high blood pressure, diabetes, PVD. You would be an absolute fool not to take a statin. Don’t listen to a bunch of conspiracy theory dumbass’s. Take charge of your own health and research the thousands of articles written about plaque stabilization and lesion regression. This is not a Covid vaccine. This has been studied for decades.

Every person’s body is different so outcomes can be different. I life we all have choices. You chose.

I personally would never take one regardless of cholesterol levels.or family history. This is Dr. Aseem Maholtra. Not sure if it's in this video but he breaks down the data and proves it's been a scam in the making long before the drug was approved.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/qjDw3fAxxNMTesi2/?mibextid=xCPwDs

Do you routinely exercise lift weights, do cardio and eat right?

Honestly, have you made changes to diet and lifestyle?

If not start there and see if you can bring it down naturally through a proper diet and exercise.

But if you are predisposed to having hereditary high cholesterol medication might be hard to avoid.

Listen to Big Bore.

I am diabetic with blood pressure issues. My cholesterol levels have never been really high but borderline for someone with my health issues. Doc put me on a statin several years ago to be cautious and I've suffered no ill effects.

Will beat this dead horse again. Your results may vary. All men on my Father's side all died before age 60 from Heart disease. Dad had 6 bypasses at age 60. He has been on statins since that time and will be 84 in two weeks. I lost 40 lbs and cholesterol did not move a single point. My sister lost a lot of weight and hers came down. Same father, hers was dietary and mine was hereditary. Mine will be high without medication. Neither me nor my Dad have had any side effects and will continue to take them.

If your doctor prescribes them but you don’t trust his opinion, you need to find another doctor, whether it be statins or the Covid vaccine. Having a doctor that you don’t trust is foolish.

Here is a very thorough article on statin usage through meta analysis of 21 different studies over years(1987-2021 to be exact). Quite interesting, informative and has absolutely nothing to do with the conspiracy side of statins, dementia, liver damage and what not.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2790055

Every man on both sides of my family had or has heart disease. I had 2 heart attacks 11 years ago, had 6 stents, and my cardiologist put me on on a statin. If there were any side effects, I haven't noticed them. My Dr said that even if they caused side effects, he didn't think anyone had ever died because of taking a statin. Millions die every year from heart disease.

Most everything we do in life involves risk/reward. There are risks to most medical treatments, but there are usually greater risks to letting a disease go untreated. These numbers are made up, but if there is a 1% chance of serious side effects from a statin, and a 10% chance of dying from heart disease if you don't take it, it should be an easy choice to take it.

It seems to me that in the last few years many think they should avoid every medical treatment that has risk. They often ignore the much greater risk of the disease.

I’ve been on a statun for years and haven’t had any side effects. My cholesterol has gone down significantly and my liver numbers sre good. I’ll continue to take it. I’ve got young kids so I need to stay in the game as long as possible.

You can take Statins or, in most cases, just quit shoving crap in your mouth. I quit them because they were causing me substantial muscle pain years ago and have since had slightly elevated cholesterol and very high Triglycerides. Well a couple of weeks ago I had blood work done and my Doctor is like “what the heck have you been doing, your numbers are great.” Triglycerides had gone down almost 50%. What I did was cut out sugar, carbs and all forms of soda for about 6 weeks and lost 20 lbs. I guess the diet and exercise thing is not BS.

I could not take the after a heart attack
Made me hurt all over especially in my legs and made me get winded easily
Guys there is no such thing a “Bad” cholesterol
LDL gets a bad name because it oxidizes quicker and easier than HDL and this oxidation is what causes plaque build up in arteries
Inflammation and stress are the main causes for LDL oxidation and a change in diet and a increase in your prayer life will work wonders on both
If you multiply your HDL by 3 and it is equal to or above you LDL number then you are fine and if not then a simple change in diet will help
LDL does serve for several vital functions in your body

My last bloodwork had my HDL at 40 and my LDL at 120 and that’s eating a mostly carnivore diet and losing 20lbs

I had this very talk with my doc yesterday. I had stopped taking mine for a while mainly just from listening to friends and people like my Aldeer brothers. Cholesterol was slightly elevated but ok.He strongly suggested that I resume taking them and told me that the biggest downside is in higher doses they can effect your liver. In some people they can cause muscle pain. He says that the positives far outweigh the negatives. There main use is to reduce plaque in your veins. He convinced me to give them another try.

Plaque is cause by metabolization of a strange form of D3 in Nightshade vegetables that cause calcium deposits in soft tissues. Night shade vegetables on a rotational diet don’t cause too many problems and actually have some beneficial properties. Problem is they have become filler foods eatin by many folk at every meal everyday. This metabolism is especially prevalent in people’s of Scottish or Irish decent

You’ll only get this info here

My HDL is substantially higher than my LDL. I flipped it by eating eggs and taking Avocado oil everyday, and boneless skinless sardines in water 3 times per week.

The body needs cholesterol

Y’all keep drinking city water too…Its good for you 🤣😂🤣😂

3 C’s, Cigarettes, City water, Conecuh Sausage 🤣😂🤣😂

My dads dad died of heart disease when he was in his 50’s. My dad is 82 and on 6-7 different blood pressure meds. He will tell you flat out, it’s the only reason he’s still alive.

The other benifit may be better than lowering cholesterol. Statins are great at lowering inflammation. Even if you have normal cholesterol some people would benifit.

Thanks for the replies. I've been reading some about why people don't take them and honestly it felt like a bunch of conspiracy theories. I use to take Atorvastatin but stopped and changed my diet. I will stay off them until my next lab work is done. Then if needed, I will likely start them again.

The genetic lotto is real. Some people have high "bad" cholesterol. It's just the way it is. If diet and exercise don't fix it, then I'd get on the statin.