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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: 3bailey3] #4192218
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Originally Posted by 3bailey3
AU my son's friends parents did just that, kid was wreckless. a wild azz, kicked out of the public school system. Kid had his license less than a week and drove over a hill doing over 90 MPH and wrapped it around a pine tree! my son and two others killed instantly! Did I sue the maker of the car, No. Did I want to sue the parents, yes! did I, No losing a child is not a money making deal but did I want them to pay, Yes! Was it some my fault yes! I got in from work a few days before and my wife was planting some flowers in our yard and I asked where Zachary was and she said that the boy had gotten his license and had picked him up, I said on my God! wife said what? That boy has no value of life! My wife has never worked in the yard since that day!



frown frown frown

Terrible, sad story. So sorry for your loss.




Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #4192226
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Some of y’all are thinking too far into this. It has nothing to do with ammo or gun manufacturers, or car manufacturers. They aren’t charging him for failing as a parent. He knew his son had threatened to kill, and he supplied him with a gun. They’ve been charging people like this for decades.

You drove the getaway car but your buddy pulled the trigger? You’re getting charged with it too.



And it has came out the kids threat was unsubstantiated meaning they couldn’t say for a fact he was the one that made the threat.

Now if they can then it’s also on the authorities so arrest them too!!!!

I can only imagine the backlog as we go after authorities that did not prevent someone’s death because they let out someone, didn’t arrest someone or anything thing to thwart another persons death.

I’m torn on how this is playing out. The previous parents that were charged did play a role, I’m not so sure here. I do know this won’t play well in the long run if it stands.



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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: Beer Belly] #4192227
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Colin Noir nails it in my opinion



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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: 3bailey3] #4192228
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Originally Posted by 3bailey3
AU my son's friends parents did just that, kid was wreckless. a wild azz, kicked out of the public school system. Kid had his license less than a week and drove over a hill doing over 90 MPH and wrapped it around a pine tree! my son and two others killed instantly! Did I sue the maker of the car, No. Did I want to sue the parents, yes! did I, No losing a child is not a money making deal but did I want them to pay, Yes! Was it some my fault yes! I got in from work a few days before and my wife was planting some flowers in our yard and I asked where Zachary was and she said that the boy had gotten his license and had picked him up, I said on my God! wife said what? That boy has no value of life! My wife has never worked in the yard since that day!


Man I’m sorry about that horrible situation


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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: Beer Belly] #4192234
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I agree the father is liable. When the FBI comes to your house to talk to you about your sons school threats and you tell em he has no access to any guns....then you buy the little psychopath an AR-15....then yer dumbass IS liable.


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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #4192265
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by woodduck
Liable maybe for something but criminally charged for murder no. Slippery slope

Father was aware his son had made threats online, and proceeded to buy him an AR-15 for Christmas. His father is absolutely liable for murder. Those kids’ blood is on his hands.


Agree. Put gun in a gun safe. It's simple.

Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: BhamFred] #4192455
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I agree the father is liable. When the FBI comes to your house to talk to you about your sons school threats and you tell em he has no access to any guns....then you buy the little psychopath an AR-15....then yer dumbass IS liable.


Does the FBI get a free pass on their screw up? And yes, I'm sure the Dad is a POS.

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Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by BhamFred
I agree the father is liable. When the FBI comes to your house to talk to you about your sons school threats and you tell em he has no access to any guns....then you buy the little psychopath an AR-15....then yer dumbass IS liable.


Does the FBI get a free pass on their screw up? And yes, I'm sure the Dad is a POS.

There is due process. The FBI may not have had enough evidence to charge the boy with anything.

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So what if the government comes to your house and says your son did something, he says he didn't do it. You can't find any proof. Who are you gonna believe?

Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: Pwyse] #4192896
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
So what if the government comes to your house and says your son did something, he says he didn't do it. You can't find any proof. Who are you gonna believe?



Depends

Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #4192916
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by BhamFred
I agree the father is liable. When the FBI comes to your house to talk to you about your sons school threats and you tell em he has no access to any guns....then you buy the little psychopath an AR-15....then yer dumbass IS liable.


Does the FBI get a free pass on their screw up? And yes, I'm sure the Dad is a POS.

There is due process. The FBI may not have had enough evidence to charge the boy with anything.


So then the fbi didn’t actually have proof so what’s dad to do. Making terrorist threat is a very serious charge

Heck how many parents rush judgement over things much more trivial and get after the administration and teachers. Little Johnny wouldn’t do this that and the other. You’re wrong they’ll say. A lot of bad things get glossed over cus little Johnny wouldn’t do that. Listening to the interview with fbi and dad. Dad said all the right things did he not? I grew up in a time where a neighbor could cal dad and I was always wrong. A teacher could’ve called it be hell on earth for me. Those days are long long gone.

We used to argue an AR15 is no different than any other semi auto rifle. Now we’re saying dad shouldn’t have bought him an AR15 and we have determined it is indeed a weapon of war.


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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: Lockjaw] #4192919
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by woodduck
Liable maybe for something but criminally charged for murder no. Slippery slope

Father was aware his son had made threats online, and proceeded to buy him an AR-15 for Christmas. His father is absolutely liable for murder. Those kids’ blood is on his hands.


Agree. Put gun in a gun safe. It's simple.



So now we have a law saying guns are to be in the safe and ammo stored in a different safe or whatever. Sounds like many democratic controlled big cities. What about 10 round mags being max


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Article out now that the Mother called and said the school should check on their Son about statements made that morning. The guidance counselor confused the name and confiscated a backpack from the wrong student. 30 minutes later the shooting started.


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very sorry for the victims / families however Im Not sure I agree with some of these charges against the father Without knowing all the Facts. I dont believe anything the media puts out

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Re: GA shooter father charged - Chicago parents? [Re: cartervj] #4192934
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by woodduck
Liable maybe for something but criminally charged for murder no. Slippery slope

Father was aware his son had made threats online, and proceeded to buy him an AR-15 for Christmas. His father is absolutely liable for murder. Those kids’ blood is on his hands.


Agree. Put gun in a gun safe. It's simple.



So now we have a law saying guns are to be in the safe and ammo stored in a different safe or whatever. Sounds like many democratic controlled big cities. What about 10 round mags being max


I am not sure he’s saying there should be an actual law to enforce this issue. (?) To me, it’s a matter of things that used to be common sense when it comes to personal responsibility, aren’t anymore. So you have a troubled child with severe issues controlling their behavior? - yeah probably lock your weapons up and be proactive making sure the child can’t have access to something dangerous during a bout of out-of-control-behavior. If you kid is sure enough mentally gone, you better be absolutely sure they aren’t going to destroy the lives of others around you. Just common sense stuff here. Heaping shame on the dad doesn’t necessarily correlate to a position of wanting the government to put overarching laws on the rest of us

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But that’s where it’s headed. Watch the Colin Noir video I posted.

It’s a slippery slope. Like I pointed out. I grew up an accusation resulted in an azz whooping no matter if the person lied. These days it’s the opposite.
Legally you can’t just lock someone up without a law being broken. So far all I’ve seen is allowed. Sonia there a law dictating an age requirement for possession?
Some states probably do


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I’m gonna er on the side of “careful what you wish for, you just might get it”


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Originally Posted by cartervj
But that’s where it’s headed. Watch the Colin Noir video I posted.

It’s a slippery slope. Like I pointed out. I grew up an accusation resulted in an azz whooping no matter if the person lied. These days it’s the opposite.
Legally you can’t just lock someone up without a law being broken. So far all I’ve seen is allowed. Sonia there a law dictating an age requirement for possession?
Some states probably do

If the azz whoopings were still being administered to the kids regularly, on a zero tolerance basis, and the kids were required to attend church every Sunday, and parents were actually involved with their children and their lives, you wouldn’t have all theses problems in society that we are seeing today.

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If it’s proven that he knew there was the potential, he bought the gun and allowed access to it, then he is liable and should be charged. No slippery slope here.

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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by cartervj
But that’s where it’s headed. Watch the Colin Noir video I posted.

It’s a slippery slope. Like I pointed out. I grew up an accusation resulted in an azz whooping no matter if the person lied. These days it’s the opposite.
Legally you can’t just lock someone up without a law being broken. So far all I’ve seen is allowed. Sonia there a law dictating an age requirement for possession?
Some states probably do

If the azz whoopings were still being administered to the kids regularly, on a zero tolerance basis, and the kids were required to attend church every Sunday, and parents were actually involved with their children and their lives, you wouldn’t have all theses problems in society that we are seeing today.



Exactly. We agree where the beginning to the end started


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