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Outfitter
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Soil Moisture Management
#4194056
09/10/24 11:42 AM
09/10/24 11:42 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,755 Awbarn, AL
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Dances With Weeds
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Probably the most overlooked aspect of planting fall food plots.........
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
[Re: Shaneomac2]
#4194083
09/10/24 12:14 PM
09/10/24 12:14 PM
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By managing infiltration and retention……..
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4194114
09/10/24 01:00 PM
09/10/24 01:00 PM
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It’s bone dry going into planting time…..typical for Bama…..We’re about to get heavy rain dumped on all of us which could potentially be one of only a couple good rain events between now and Halloween……Your plots need to be in a condition right now where they can soak all of this rain up and hold it as long as possible…..IMO, the best thing to have done up to this point is nothing……. and the dying summer vegetation still be standing whole in the field……root structures still intact in the soil……
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4194125
09/10/24 01:21 PM
09/10/24 01:21 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,049 shelby county
buzzard
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We cut into some of our plots this past weekend with the spring tooth harrow with the intention that the cuts will catch water. many of our plots are on slopes and we have some fine chilton county chirt we deal with so run off can be an issue. other areas we have left summer crops standing and will throw and mow into them with the time comes.
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4198924
09/18/24 11:58 AM
09/18/24 11:58 AM
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Back to dry and 90-degree temps again for the foreseeable future…….
Last edited by CNC; 09/18/24 11:59 AM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199023
09/18/24 03:27 PM
09/18/24 03:27 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,745 Mobile, AL
Pwyse
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Back to dry and 90-degree temps again for the foreseeable future……. Yep. Hopefully this will be the last time we ever put a disk on the food plots at my bosses place. Still trying to convince the guys at the club to stop disking. That bare disked dirt can't hold any water. Especially the sandy loam we got.
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199049
09/18/24 04:36 PM
09/18/24 04:36 PM
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DGAMBLER
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We got over 2 inches of rain last weekend and I'm thinking about trying one small throw and mow plot that the vegetation is about waist high and pretty thick. I'm thinking about planting it this weekend if there is moisture in the top couple inches of dirt. What yall think? I won't be out but a few dollars if it fails anyway.
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
[Re: DGAMBLER]
#4199064
09/18/24 04:59 PM
09/18/24 04:59 PM
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We got over 2 inches of rain last weekend and I'm thinking about trying one small throw and mow plot that the vegetation is about waist high and pretty thick. I'm thinking about planting it this weekend if there is moisture in the top couple inches of dirt. What yall think? I won't be out but a few dollars if it fails anyway. If you have the ability to sit back and just watch the forecast then I’d wait until it said we had temp drops and rain coming. It may not rain again until November…..or we may get another tropical system in the next few weeks.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199431
09/19/24 12:06 PM
09/19/24 12:06 PM
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Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 309 Pcola,FL
pcoladoc
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It’s bone dry going into planting time…..typical for Bama…..We’re about to get heavy rain dumped on all of us which could potentially be one of only a couple good rain events between now and Halloween……Your plots need to be in a condition right now where they can soak all of this rain up and hold it as long as possible…..IMO, the best thing to have done up to this point is nothing……. and the dying summer vegetation still be standing whole in the field……root structures still intact in the soil…… Do you need to spray the fields before throwing seed ? If so, how long prior to seeding ? we were going to throw the seed and the roll it with cultipacker either way.
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199519
09/19/24 02:29 PM
09/19/24 02:29 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,556 Lawrence Co. AL
jdhunter2011
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Im gaining a strong desire to build a cultipacker. Have yall seen the videos on youtube on how to make one with a corrugated pipe and quickcrete?
Its not the will to win but the will to prepare to win!
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
[Re: pcoladoc]
#4199551
09/19/24 03:20 PM
09/19/24 03:20 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,755 Awbarn, AL
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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It’s bone dry going into planting time…..typical for Bama…..We’re about to get heavy rain dumped on all of us which could potentially be one of only a couple good rain events between now and Halloween……Your plots need to be in a condition right now where they can soak all of this rain up and hold it as long as possible…..IMO, the best thing to have done up to this point is nothing……. and the dying summer vegetation still be standing whole in the field……root structures still intact in the soil…… Do you need to spray the fields before throwing seed ? If so, how long prior to seeding ? we were going to throw the seed and the roll it with cultipacker either way. Just depends on what all you have growing in the fields.....summer annuals dont need spraying......
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199650
09/19/24 06:55 PM
09/19/24 06:55 PM
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Posts: 19,363 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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Serious question CNC. (Hard to believe, I know)
Would it have been good to bush hog the fields prior to the rain even if you may not plant until a few weeks later. No spraying, just cutting.
Seems like having a dense canopy laying over the soil would be great for moisture retention and building organic matter before planting.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199659
09/19/24 07:20 PM
09/19/24 07:20 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,755 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Serious question CNC. (Hard to believe, I know)
Would it have been good to bush hog the fields prior to the rain even if you may not plant until a few weeks later. No spraying, just cutting.
Seems like having a dense canopy laying over the soil would be great for moisture retention and building organic matter before planting. I would always try to seed and mow at the same time…..When you mow hay it starts off fluffy and “lays down” more and more as the days go by and it gets rain on it……eventually forming a mat…..You’re probably not going to get good seed to soil contact trying to seed over hay that was mowed much ahead of time unless you were using a drill…..Also, that fluffiness of the hay there in the first week or so gives those little seedlings more space to grow through and get established……You’re correct though in that it will help hold moisture…….Right now though the summer vegetation is still standing in the field shading the soil and helping to serve a similar role.
Last edited by CNC; 09/19/24 07:21 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
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#4199713
09/19/24 08:24 PM
09/19/24 08:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 19,363 North AL
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Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Serious question CNC. (Hard to believe, I know)
Would it have been good to bush hog the fields prior to the rain even if you may not plant until a few weeks later. No spraying, just cutting.
Seems like having a dense canopy laying over the soil would be great for moisture retention and building organic matter before planting. I would always try to seed and mow at the same time…..When you mow hay it starts off fluffy and “lays down” more and more as the days go by and it gets rain on it……eventually forming a mat…..You’re probably not going to get good seed to soil contact trying to seed over hay that was mowed much ahead of time unless you were using a drill…..Also, that fluffiness of the hay there in the first week or so gives those little seedlings more space to grow through and get established……You’re correct though in that it will help hold moisture…….Right now though the summer vegetation is still standing in the field shading the soil and helping to serve a similar role.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Soil Moisture Management
[Re: jdhunter2011]
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09/19/24 09:29 PM
09/19/24 09:29 PM
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Posts: 4,342 chilton, co.
hayman
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Im gaining a strong desire to build a cultipacker. Have yall seen the videos on youtube on how to make one with a corrugated pipe and quickcrete? I have one. It doesn’t work exactly like a true cultipacker weighted disk to penetrate the surface.It works pretty good on prepped disked ground but an actual cultipacker definitely works better.
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