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Haitians
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09/15/24 08:39 AM
09/15/24 08:39 AM
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jwalker77
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Correct me if im wrong. According to the "refugee" process, wouldnt all these haitians be legal. They are a next country over. There are some pretty bad things going on there a person might want to flee. And im sure some of them got here in a bpat illegally, so yes theyre illegal, by definition. But im pretty sure our govt has been picking most of them up and doing the process as close as we will see to right. Im not saying i like it or im for it. Im not. Im just saying that we do have a process in this country for accepting refugees and if these folks dont fit the bill, who would?
Last edited by jwalker77; 09/15/24 08:39 AM.
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Re: Haitians
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09/15/24 08:55 AM
09/15/24 08:55 AM
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leroycnbucks
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The federal government brought in about 200 in a small town in Limestone County not too long ago. Legal or not, the plan is to change the demographics of the rural areas of the South and flyover states.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: Haitians
[Re: jwalker77]
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09/15/24 09:36 AM
09/15/24 09:36 AM
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cartervj
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The federal government is flying them in under special orders. So in essence they are legal refugee status. Th as how they’re getting all those perks. Oddly same perks illegals are getting too thru special interest groups that get federal matching funds. Of course the federal match can be 100 to 1 or whatever was designated.
A quick google and there’s many many organizations
https://www.virtueimpact.com/post/refugee-charities#:~:text=Here%20are%20a%20few%20of,the%20Welfare%20of%20Immigrants%20(JCWI)
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Re: Haitians
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09/15/24 10:05 AM
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Fattyfireplug
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The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted.
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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09/15/24 10:39 AM
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cartervj
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The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted. You see now why blackrock has been buying up housing and apartments. They know what’s happening and it’s all about the numbers for them. We the people are being bought out with our own money
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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09/15/24 11:08 AM
09/15/24 11:08 AM
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Ridge Life
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And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor
Jake we now can agree
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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09/15/24 11:12 AM
09/15/24 11:12 AM
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woodduck
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The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted. They are not wanted there that’s part of why they are dumping them elsewhere. One small part
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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09/15/24 11:14 AM
09/15/24 11:14 AM
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leroycnbucks
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And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor
This is true. It happened in Russellville and other chicken plant / poultry farming towns.
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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09/15/24 11:17 AM
09/15/24 11:17 AM
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jwalker77
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And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor
And this is one side of it. Yes farmers need "cheap" labor. We pay what little help we do get $15/hr. Is that "cheap" help? Thats twice minimum wage. And im sure there are farmers paying minimum wage. So, are consumers willing to pay more for their food so the cheap labor can be paid more?
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Ridge Life]
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09/15/24 11:23 AM
09/15/24 11:23 AM
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James
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I do not believe it’s the farmers themselves but the processing and “food” side of the industry. The company side Yup. "Most" Farmers are just getting hose like the rest of us 😔
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Ridge Life]
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09/15/24 11:24 AM
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I do not believe it’s the farmers themselves but the processing and “food” side of the industry. The company side If you want, i can show you a couple of farms where about all the workers are non english speaking foreigners. Now, im not 100% sure theyre illegal and im not doing the investigation work it would take to prove it. But i would assume they swam the river. They might have work visas now, but likely got here illegally.
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Re: Haitians
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09/15/24 11:27 AM
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coldtrail
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It's all about voters. If you think politicians care about farmers your pretty gullible.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude Higher than my expectations Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Re: Haitians
[Re: Ridge Life]
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09/15/24 11:33 AM
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I know the farming industry I’m in, most of the farmers can’t afford to pay anyone at all.. maybe on the bigger scale.. I dont know a whole lot about the big business farming. Farms growing thousands of acres of rowcrops. I assume chemicals and farming practices have cut labor back enough, equipment has replaced manpower. I do know a little about what goes on around here, farms producing food and just about all the bigger ones around here are working migrants of some kind. These are the farmers that require hands on physical labor for a season.
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Re: Haitians
[Re: jwalker77]
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09/15/24 11:41 AM
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coldtrail
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This is happening globally, every western nation is being flooded with illegals. Why? It's obvious to me it's about destroying culture and causing Kaos. Part of the new world order Then our identity and rights are taken away. One day we'll ask ourselves why we didn't fight back.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude Higher than my expectations Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Re: Haitians
[Re: jwalker77]
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09/15/24 11:50 AM
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Where we are now, according to evidence we have on this site currently is this: our govt is shipping in foreigners on a large scale. Some are committing crimes. If you try to speak out against it in a community meeting, you will be shut down. If you mistreat them in any way, the feds will be after you for hate crimes. Wethepeople are not being represented by our govt. Freedom of speech is gone. They are pushing things on us and we have no say in it. That in itself is aginst the way this country was set up.
Last edited by jwalker77; 09/15/24 11:52 AM.
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