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Haitians #4197049
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Correct me if im wrong. According to the "refugee" process, wouldnt all these haitians be legal. They are a next country over. There are some pretty bad things going on there a person might want to flee. And im sure some of them got here in a bpat illegally, so yes theyre illegal, by definition. But im pretty sure our govt has been picking most of them up and doing the process as close as we will see to right. Im not saying i like it or im for it. Im not. Im just saying that we do have a process in this country for accepting refugees and if these folks dont fit the bill, who would?

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Re: Haitians [Re: jwalker77] #4197056
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The federal government brought in about 200 in a small town in Limestone County not too long ago. Legal or not, the plan is to change the demographics of the rural areas of the South and flyover states.


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Re: Haitians [Re: jwalker77] #4197065
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The federal government is flying them in under special orders. So in essence they are legal refugee status. Th as how they’re getting all those perks. Oddly same perks illegals are getting too thru special interest groups that get federal matching funds. Of course the federal match can be 100 to 1 or whatever was designated.

A quick google and there’s many many organizations

https://www.virtueimpact.com/post/refugee-charities#:~:text=Here%20are%20a%20few%20of,the%20Welfare%20of%20Immigrants%20(JCWI)


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Re: Haitians [Re: jwalker77] #4197074
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The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted.


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Re: Haitians [Re: Fattyfireplug] #4197093
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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted.



You see now why blackrock has been buying up housing and apartments. They know what’s happening and it’s all about the numbers for them.

We the people are being bought out with our own money


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Re: Haitians [Re: cartervj] #4197100
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And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor

Re: Haitians [Re: Jakethesnake] #4197106
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake


And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor


Jake we now can agree

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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
The federal government should settle them where they are wanted. Specifically in Washington DC, California, New York and Chicago. No community should have them if not wanted.

They are not wanted there that’s part of why they are dumping them elsewhere. One small part

Re: Haitians [Re: Jakethesnake] #4197112
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake


And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor



This is true. It happened in Russellville and other chicken plant / poultry farming towns.


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Re: Haitians [Re: Jakethesnake] #4197113
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake


And I believe the food and farming industry is paying politicians to bring them in for cheap labor

And this is one side of it. Yes farmers need "cheap" labor. We pay what little help we do get $15/hr. Is that "cheap" help? Thats twice minimum wage. And im sure there are farmers paying minimum wage. So, are consumers willing to pay more for their food so the cheap labor can be paid more?

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I do not believe it’s the farmers themselves but the processing and “food” side of the industry. The company side

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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
I do not believe it’s the farmers themselves but the processing and “food” side of the industry. The company side

Yup. "Most" Farmers are just getting hose like the rest of us 😔


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Re: Haitians [Re: Ridge Life] #4197122
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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
I do not believe it’s the farmers themselves but the processing and “food” side of the industry. The company side

If you want, i can show you a couple of farms where about all the workers are non english speaking foreigners. Now, im not 100% sure theyre illegal and im not doing the investigation work it would take to prove it. But i would assume they swam the river. They might have work visas now, but likely got here illegally.

Re: Haitians [Re: jwalker77] #4197125
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It's all about voters. If you think politicians care about farmers your pretty gullible.


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I know the farming industry I’m in, most of the farmers can’t afford to pay anyone at all.. maybe on the bigger scale..

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And i am not advocating whats going on. Im just saying its a much bigger issue than what we are being shown by media on either side. There are alot of sides to this issue. Alot of problems that need to be addressed somehow. I said in another thread, there will be no mass deportation. Thats not happening. The best we can hope for is the deportation of those sponging off the system and criminals who intend on doing us harm.

Re: Haitians [Re: Ridge Life] #4197132
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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
I know the farming industry I’m in, most of the farmers can’t afford to pay anyone at all.. maybe on the bigger scale..

I dont know a whole lot about the big business farming. Farms growing thousands of acres of rowcrops. I assume chemicals and farming practices have cut labor back enough, equipment has replaced manpower. I do know a little about what goes on around here, farms producing food and just about all the bigger ones around here are working migrants of some kind. These are the farmers that require hands on physical labor for a season.

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And im not 100% sure about the haitians that are fixin to be brought in here close to me but i assume theyll be working at the Tyson planta few miles down the road. What i have heard is theyre coming, housing is being prepared for them, Tyson needs them because they are not fully staffed. We only hear bits and pieces. We wont know all the truth until its here on us and nothing can be done about it. Thats how this kind of thing works

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This is happening globally, every western nation is being flooded with illegals. Why? It's obvious to me it's about destroying culture and causing Kaos. Part of the new world order
Then our identity and rights are taken away. One day we'll ask ourselves why we didn't fight back.


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Re: Haitians [Re: jwalker77] #4197145
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Where we are now, according to evidence we have on this site currently is this: our govt is shipping in foreigners on a large scale. Some are committing crimes. If you try to speak out against it in a community meeting, you will be shut down. If you mistreat them in any way, the feds will be after you for hate crimes. Wethepeople are not being represented by our govt. Freedom of speech is gone. They are pushing things on us and we have no say in it. That in itself is aginst the way this country was set up.

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