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T&M Seed & Rate? #4203113
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T&M guys- what seeds are you planting? What rate per acre?

I've been doing straight wheat with WMS Clover Feast on couple wet plots, but planning to plant wheat, rye grain and clover on rest of fields. Just can't decide lbs per acre of each?

Thanks in advance!

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Just depends on the situation.......Crimson clover is pretty cheap


We dont rent pigs
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A little clover goes a long way if it's spread correctly.

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I'd do 50lb wheat, 50lb cereal rye, and 6lbs crimson per acre, if that's your mix. I planted, brassicas, oats,and 3 clovers on some fields and rye and clovers on others.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
I'd do 50lb wheat, 50lb cereal rye, and 6lbs crimson per acre, if that's your mix. I planted, brassicas, oats,and 3 clovers on some fields and rye and clovers on others.


6 sounds right. 10 pounds per acre max. They say it takes more moisture out of the ground than what it's competing against.

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Originally Posted by BPI
A little clover goes a long way if it's spread correctly.


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Sorry should’ve been more specific. I know what clovers I’m planting based on soil types etc. Just trying to figure out how many lbs per acre of wheat and rye.

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I like 100 lbs of oats and 50 lbs each of wheat/rye. 50 lbs of each of all 3 should give you what you want.


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I'd up my crimson clover rate about 30-35% to accommodate for the seed coating. Most Crimson clover in todays time comes preinoculated with coating to protect the inoculant. Obviously the added coating weight takes away from the actual number of seeds.

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High deer densities need heavier applications such as what N2TRKYS suggests.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
High deer densities need heavier applications such as what N2TRKYS suggests.


Most of the time those rates aren’t enough. 🙁


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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4203700
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If you’re trying for a dedicated clover plot, you’ll need about 40 lbs to the acre of perennial clover mixed with about 20 lbs of rye. For everything else I typically double the recommended rate.

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40# of perennial clover? Holy shite. 8# an acre for durana per acre, of course you need to go at 10# due to coating weight.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
40# of perennial clover? Holy shite. 8# an acre for durana per acre, of course you need to go at 10# due to coating weight.

That’s the secret few are talking about.

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This is the blend we’ve been using for several years. 1500 pounds wheat, 1000lbs Elbon rye,50lbs each of crimson clover and purple top turnips, 5700lbs 17-17-17 and 200lbs sulphur (have high ph in chalky areas).Mix it all together, put in a five ton buggy, open the gate to five and let it rip. Does 16 to 17 acres. I don’t use oats because we will have ryegrass patches that need to be sprayed with Axial.

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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4204113
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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
Originally Posted by blumsden
40# of perennial clover? Holy shite. 8# an acre for durana per acre, of course you need to go at 10# due to coating weight.

That’s the secret few are talking about.

I’ve heard other people talk about that too. I just don’t see the need yet. Been getting great stands of clover at 12-15 lbs to the acre for a very long time. At 40 lbs to the acre you’re looking at $350 per acre for seed alone. 🤔

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I believe the planting rate for Durana is 5 lbs per acre


We dont rent pigs
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Originally Posted by CNC
I believe the planting rate for Durana is 5 lbs per acre

That’s pure live seed. Add the coating and the 15-20% of seed that isn’t viable and you’ll need 8 lbs at least.

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Rolled the dice and planted powerline plot yesterday. This plot holds a lot of water during winter so wanted to try and give it a head start. Hope we get rain Thurs or Fri.

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