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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4206083
10/01/24 10:18 AM
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We dont rent pigs
Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209050
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We just did 200lb/acre of wheat and 50lb/acre of Elbon Rye and 300lb/acre of Triple 13


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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209308
10/07/24 01:36 PM
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Question for you T&M experts. What do you think about plan below? Would you change anything on the T&M plan. Fertilizer will be applied at around 260 lb acre and top dress with 150 lb acre of 34-0-0 in late december.

I'm going to try something new this year. Due to my deer population I am going to T&M 50 lb acre cereal rye and 10 lb acre of Fixation clover. I will come over the top of the T&M with my 606nt and drill 100 lb acre of WMS AL Blend.


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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209712
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Squeaky,

I did something very similar. I also have very high density and due to my ocd, I don't like the way my winter fields look when I drill them. It takes them until spring to "crown out" and fill in, so all winter you are looking at perfect rows. I broadcast 25lb of Elbon rye, then I come over the top with my no till drill and drill wheat, oats and the remaining 25lb per acre of rye. In the small seed box I had a mix of approx. 13 lbs per acre of clovers.

I am going to hold off until the first few weeks of November and come back and fertilize.

Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209731
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Squeaky, I see no reason that wouldn't work, with adequate moisture.

Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: stl32] #4209745
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Originally Posted by stl32
Squeaky,

I did something very similar. I also have very high density and due to my ocd, I don't like the way my winter fields look when I drill them. It takes them until spring to "crown out" and fill in, so all winter you are looking at perfect rows. I broadcast 25lb of Elbon rye, then I come over the top with my no till drill and drill wheat, oats and the remaining 25lb per acre of rye. In the small seed box I had a mix of approx. 13 lbs per acre of clovers.

I am going to hold off until the first few weeks of November and come back and fertilize.


Yeah my OCD and high deer population are my only issues with strictly no till. On my properties with a lower deer population or larger plots I get a good crown by December and field look awesome. Thank you for the feed back! thumbup


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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: blumsden] #4209747
10/08/24 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Squeaky, I see no reason that wouldn't work, with adequate moisture.


We have caught some rain and Helene gave us a good amount also. We caught another shower over the weekend as well. When I was over a week ago it was wet....wet. I'm thinking I will have adequate moisture to drill into a week from now hopefully.


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Comes to us at midnight very clean.
It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209825
10/08/24 12:00 PM
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the fixation will add very little to any browse through deer season , like perennial clover, it spends most of its energy establishing a root system first then to shoot growth. i’d add some crimson if u want any forbs with the grain


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Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: 270wsm] #4209841
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I don't do throw and mow with wheat in it anymore. It just turns into a turkey feeding frenzy unless rain is coming quickly. They don't seem to lock into cereal rye, but there are more rye seeds per pound.

In fact this year I didn't even buy wheat. Just cereal rye.

Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: hunterturf] #4209843
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Originally Posted by hunterturf
the fixation will add very little to any browse through deer season , like perennial clover, it spends most of its energy establishing a root system first then to shoot growth. i’d add some crimson if u want any forbs with the grain


I have had a tough time getting that to grow. Arrowleaf on the other hand, its awesome. And it stays green until mid june. I am waiting to see how it reseeds on one plot in particular.

Re: T&M Seed & Rate? [Re: Lockjaw] #4209900
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by hunterturf
the fixation will add very little to any browse through deer season , like perennial clover, it spends most of its energy establishing a root system first then to shoot growth. i’d add some crimson if u want any forbs with the grain


I have had a tough time getting that to grow. Arrowleaf on the other hand, its awesome. And it stays green until mid june. I am waiting to see how it reseeds on one plot in particular.


balansa loves wet areas, frosty berseem outdid the balansa in 80% of the fields i put them in.


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