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? Accubond guys #4209295
10/07/24 01:06 PM
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I have been testing 140 grain Accubond loads today.

Load one. 48.5 grains of IMR 4350 speed 2588.

Load two. 58.0 grains of H4831SC speed 3000

Both loads were equally accurate. Not great but plenty accurate enough. I’m not a great shooter. My question is since both are close in accuracy should I go with the hotter faster load or the slower load??? My goal is plenty of damage and blood. Which load would you shoot all things considered?????


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209323
10/07/24 02:06 PM
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Your typical shot is under 300 yards? Or you in the woods deep? The 4350 will do the job just.as the 4831 will. I'm a big believer that self confidence helps shooters because they practice more when not getting beaten up by recoil.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209329
10/07/24 02:15 PM
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To be honest it could be either. We have a power line that could easily be 300 yard shot.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209333
10/07/24 02:17 PM
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The 4831 certainly has significantly more recoil. Very good point.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209341
10/07/24 02:21 PM
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H4831 and the 270 go together like peas and carrots.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: AU338MAG] #4209349
10/07/24 02:32 PM
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Between the coosa and cahaba
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
H4831 and the 270 go together like peas and carrots.

Best I've found for 270 win.

Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209363
10/07/24 02:57 PM
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Which load has the lowest extreme spread so that shot to shot consistency is at it's best ?


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209364
10/07/24 02:59 PM
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Always the faster load.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209504
10/07/24 06:50 PM
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I absolutely love accubond bullets, I try to shoot them un everything, but they are the pickiest dam bullet when it comes to seating depth.

Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209578
10/07/24 08:12 PM
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I don’t understand comparing a minimum load of one powder to a max load of another. Seems very apples to oranges.

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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209587
10/07/24 08:20 PM
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The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.

Last edited by Snuffy; 10/07/24 08:23 PM.

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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209598
10/07/24 08:28 PM
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Is bonded bullet's terminal performance better with a high or low/moderate velocity? Answer that, and you'll know how to approach it.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209605
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.


I gotcha


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4209647
10/07/24 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.

It means it was the most accurate load tested in the gun at the Nosler factory and that data may be 30 years old.

It has very little correlation with what may be the most accurate load in your gun.

When looking at the data above, I'm going to start with the powder which I have in my stock, has the most velocity potential and is close to 100% case fill. I'll try that powder with a load close to max and run tests with 3 or 4 seating depths to see which gives the best accuracy. After determining the best OAL, then I'll adjust the powder charge for velocity and accuracy.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: AU338MAG] #4209697
10/08/24 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Snuffy
The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.

It means it was the most accurate load tested in the gun at the Nosler factory and that data may be 30 years old.

It has very little correlation with what may be the most accurate load in your gun.

When looking at the data above, I'm going to start with the powder which I have in my stock, has the most velocity potential and is close to 100% case fill. I'll try that powder with a load close to max and run tests with 3 or 4 seating depths to see which gives the best accuracy. After determining the best OAL, then I'll adjust the powder charge for velocity and accuracy.

Correct. I don’t have a ton of powder, bullets or testing time. So I chose Nosler most accurate loads to save time. My rifle is not finicky and as stated above. I have old eyes and I’m not a great shooter. 😁


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4212504
10/13/24 09:23 PM
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RL26. If you got it, there's your answer 59.5grs and a 150gr Partition or accubond over 3000 fps 1/2 MOA


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4219006
10/27/24 02:22 AM
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Speed kills.

Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4219123
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I'd go with the 4831sc all day. No way am I giving up 400 fps when both give the same accuracy.


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: AU338MAG] #4219174
10/27/24 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Snuffy
The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.

It means it was the most accurate load tested in the gun at the Nosler factory and that data may be 30 years old.

It has very little correlation with what may be the most accurate load in your gun.

When looking at the data above, I'm going to start with the powder which I have in my stock, has the most velocity potential and is close to 100% case fill. I'll try that powder with a load close to max and run tests with 3 or 4 seating depths to see which gives the best accuracy. After determining the best OAL, then I'll adjust the powder charge for velocity and accuracy.


This ^^^^


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Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: riflenut] #4221333
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Originally Posted by riflenut
I'd go with the 4831sc all day. No way am I giving up 400 fps when both give the same accuracy.

Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: BCLC] #4221774
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Snuffy
The astric means the most accurate load tested. Those are the powders I had on hand and that is the reason I loaded them the way I did.

It means it was the most accurate load tested in the gun at the Nosler factory and that data may be 30 years old.

It has very little correlation with what may be the most accurate load in your gun.

When looking at the data above, I'm going to start with the powder which I have in my stock, has the most velocity potential and is close to 100% case fill. I'll try that powder with a load close to max and run tests with 3 or 4 seating depths to see which gives the best accuracy. After determining the best OAL, then I'll adjust the powder charge for velocity and accuracy.


This ^^^^


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Re: ? Accubond guys [Re: Snuffy] #4221806
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My buddy and I made sausage for someone this morning and I had been working up some loads for his Tikka 6.5 CM. Looks like it really likes Staball 6.5 and 140gr Accubonds. 3 shot group at 100yrds. measured with calipers at .33”. [Linked Image]


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