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Re: Pen raised bucks , Matt ??? Any body [Re: eclipse829] #4212071
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Originally Posted by eclipse829
Nobody is shooting those 400, 500, 600" deer. The money for the seed is too big.

Use to be like $1200-$1500 a straw didn’t it? May be more now, or I may be mistaken.

Re: Pen raised bucks , Matt ??? Any body [Re: Frankie] #4212084
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I watched an auction and a guy paid $1 million for 1/2 interest in a buck and didnt take it with him. He just got half of what it produced from then on. Big money in big bucks

Re: Pen raised bucks , Matt ??? Any body [Re: Frankie] #4212422
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Most of the breeder bucks in Alabama fall in the 250" range at 2yo and the 3yo's generally are in the 350-400" range.

That being said I have a client in North Alabama that has numerous bucks over 500" each year and he had a 650" deer that died last year of EHD.


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If they grow like that what do they feed them?

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Originally Posted by kyles
If they grow like that what do they feed them?


Steroids? Lol


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Re: Pen raised bucks , Matt ??? Any body [Re: kyles] #4212486
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Originally Posted by kyles
If they grow like that what do they feed them?

It’s genetics. Selective breeding. Nutrition helps, but that is not why they are that big.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by kyles
If they grow like that what do they feed them?

It’s genetics. Selective breeding. Nutrition helps, but that is not why they are that big.


Yep, one of my close friends had some awesome bucks and he said it was almost entirely genetics. His family got out of the business when CWD restrictions became too much of a pain.

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I agree on genetics I been looking at my pictures this morning. I have a lot of tall rack deer. Narrow racks

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Its a mix of genetics, breeding the right doe to the right buck, and feed.

Most folks feed high protein deer feed mixed with various supplements to keep them heathly. Also the bigger bucks generally aren't put with too many does. If they breed too many their antlers will be smaller the following year.


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Originally Posted by Big Game Hunter
Its a mix of genetics, breeding the right doe to the right buck, and feed.

Most folks feed high protein deer feed mixed with various supplements to keep them heathly. Also the bigger bucks generally aren't put with too many does. If they breed too many their antlers will be smaller the following year.

Woah!!!! Say what?!?!
You mean if too many does are on the landscape and exhausting bucks with longer ruts it can negatively impact their health? No way.

I’m obviously being sarcastic. This one hurdle is too high for many to overcome.

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