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HMMMM!!! #4222128
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I don’t think this is right!!! 95gr Barnes LRX our of that POS .243. My brother bought these bullets to try. Box says for 1:8 twist. Rifle is 1:10. He didn’t realize that when he bought them. I loaded a couple with some Staball 6.5. I shot one at 25yds and that’s what I saw after the shot. Didn’t fire the others. Back to the drawing board. [Linked Image]


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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4222176
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That's awesome!!! Shoot them just like that!!!

I would be looking at the 85 gr boat tail speers or the 90 gr flat base speer hot cores before I tried anything else in it. Shorter bullets.....


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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: treemydog] #4222179
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Originally Posted by treemydog
That's awesome!!! Shoot them just like that!!!

I would be looking at the 85 gr boat tail speers or the 90 gr flat base speer hot cores before I tried anything else in it. Shorter bullets.....

That’s the route we’re going next. If it don’t shoot those, I quit!!


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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4222218
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This is where a 6mm creedmoor outperforms a 243. They are all 1:8 twist or faster and will stabilize longer bullets.

Have to stick with the 80gr TTSX in the 1:10 twist.


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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4222364
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85 gr nosler partition would be another good one to try. If I was a betting man, I'd lay money on that speer 90gr hotcore. They are inexpensive, tough bullets and will easily get the job done on southern whitetails. And I'd be shocked if they didn't group well out of that 10 twist bbl at a upper end velocity.

Edit: Berger's bullet stability calculator shows that 90 gr flat base stabilizing at even anemic velocities out of a 10-twist.

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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4222413
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I’d dump that rifle before spending any more money on bullets, primers or powder trying to find something it’ll shoot.


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Originally Posted by Shaw
I’d dump that rifle before spending any more money on bullets, primers or powder trying to find something it’ll shoot.

I’m just about to that point.


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Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4222960
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Wow, never seen one sideways at 25.

Re: HMMMM!!! [Re: marshmud991] #4223200
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the bullet specifically says it needs a 1-8 barrel to stabilize, This is exactly what id expect if it was shot in a 1-10 barrel. You'll see better results with the 80Gr TTSX or the 85 TSX, but if you're really wanting great accuracy it's typically hard to beat flat base, cup and core bullets . 100gr Interlock, 100gr Grand Slam, 100 gr Hot Cor come to mind

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The .270 round I screwed up and shot out of a 7mag hit the target like that. 😜


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Originally Posted by thayerp81
the bullet specifically says it needs a 1-8 barrel to stabilize, This is exactly what id expect if it was shot in a 1-10 barrel. You'll see better results with the 80Gr TTSX or the 85 TSX, but if you're really wanting great accuracy it's typically hard to beat flat base, cup and core bullets . 100gr Interlock, 100gr Grand Slam, 100 gr Hot Cor come to mind

I had some 80gr flat base soft points that I had pulled out of some rounds for the brass. I had forgotten about them. I just threw a load together with BL-C2 and it shot by far the best group yet out of this rifle. Under 2” at 100yds. I know that’s not great but considering what it was doing before, I can work with that. I have several brands and types of 80gr bullets on the way. I’m gonna start with the 80gr TTSXs. Those bullets have shot way better then I can shoot them in everything I’ve loaded for. Fingers crossed.


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Originally Posted by thayerp81
the bullet specifically says it needs a 1-8 barrel to stabilize, This is exactly what id expect if it was shot in a 1-10 barrel. You'll see better results with the 80Gr TTSX or the 85 TSX, but if you're really wanting great accuracy it's typically hard to beat flat base, cup and core bullets . 100gr Interlock, 100gr Grand Slam, 100 gr Hot Cor come to mind

And yes is says it right on the box. But you know we never look at stuff like that. slap


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It shouldn't keyhole like that even with that bullet and 10tw you have something else going on. Also the faster you push them the better they will stabilize


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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
It shouldn't keyhole like that even with that bullet and 10tw you have something else going on. Also the faster you push them the better they will stabilize

Youre right about the higher the speed, the better it stabilizes. The Barnes LRX bullets are notoriously hard to stabilize for their weight class. By trying to get the highest BC, they're extremely long, and it's actually bullet length, not weight, determining what it takes to stabilize.

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Originally Posted by marshmud991
Originally Posted by thayerp81
the bullet specifically says it needs a 1-8 barrel to stabilize, This is exactly what id expect if it was shot in a 1-10 barrel. You'll see better results with the 80Gr TTSX or the 85 TSX, but if you're really wanting great accuracy it's typically hard to beat flat base, cup and core bullets . 100gr Interlock, 100gr Grand Slam, 100 gr Hot Cor come to mind

I had some 80gr flat base soft points that I had pulled out of some rounds for the brass. I had forgotten about them. I just threw a load together with BL-C2 and it shot by far the best group yet out of this rifle. Under 2” at 100yds. I know that’s not great but considering what it was doing before, I can work with that. I have several brands and types of 80gr bullets on the way. I’m gonna start with the 80gr TTSXs. Those bullets have shot way better then I can shoot them in everything I’ve loaded for. Fingers crossed.


Glad you found a load that gives you some good accuracy.

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I think I found the load this rifle likes FINALLY!!! 45grs of Hodgdon Superformance under an 80gr TTSX. 2 bullets in touching and 1about an inch to the left of those 2 at 100yds. I’m gonna try to fine tune the powder charge and seating depth. But I’m not going into this thing much further. That plenty good for what it’s gonna be used for.


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Nice work Marsh


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Good deal! You've broken its back - now spend a little more.time and make that kitten purrrrr.


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